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Topic: tilia food saver (9 msgs / 242 lines)
1) From: Gregory F. W. Pierce
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I have been sort of reading the comments made about the tilia food =
saver.  I have one of these units and I am not sure if this advantage =
was listed when comparing the models. 
the most expensive model, the professional one, has a feature that none =
of the others do, it has an over-ride button that allows you to extend =
the vaccum time.  once a certain amount of all the air is evacuated the =
machine automatically seals, but you can over ride the seal and force it =
to evacuate even more air. Normally this is not necessary but with =
coffee beans there is a lot of air still around each bean. when this was =
being demonstrated to me she did use coffee actually (whole bean) and =
when you over-ride it, the result is an absolutely rock hard mass of =
coffee beans, sort of like vacuum packed commercial coffee (eg nabob).  =
I don't think this a very useful feature, however, as I simply but them =
in the canesters that you can buy that you evacuate the air from.  I =
don't think it's absolutely necessary to evacuate 100% of the air unless =
you are of course going to keep for months and months - which no one =
here would do I'm sure!!
Just thought I'd point out another difference. 
Gregory 

2) From: coffenut
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Gregory,
 
I've just picked up the 1050 model at Costco which has two settings for
vacuum-strength.  Having sealed green beans in the vac-bags at both of
the settings, I can't see any difference and would describe both as you
have."rock hard".  For those who don't own the Pro version and need more
vacuum, maybe what we need is to figure out how to rig an optional
"over-ride" switch on our existing units?  Then we can do some
"vacuum-profiling".:-).
 
Coffenut  :^)

3) From: Mike McGinness
From: "coffenut" 
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On a similar note I got a reply back from Tilia:
"If by atmospheres you mean "inches of mercury", the newer machines all pull
24"Hg, while the older Italian-made units pulled 26"Hg (at sea level)."
MM;-)
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4) From: R.N.Kyle
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You know I bought a food saver, a couple of years ago, from QVC, it came =
with some bags and a mason jar sealer. It was completely manual. My wife =
sent it back because at the time we were not roasting coffee, and we =
wanted to store dried beans and fresh veggies. but it seem to loose its =
seal and would not stay vacuumed sealed for more then 3 days. 
Mabey the machine was defective??
Ron Kyle
Roasting in South Carolina
rnkyle

5) From: Mike McGinness
From: "R.N.Kyle" 
You know I bought a food saver, a couple of years ago, from QVC, it came
with some bags and a mason jar sealer. It was completely manual. My wife
sent it back because at the time we were not roasting coffee, and we wanted
to store dried beans and fresh veggies. but it seem to loose its seal and
would not stay vacuumed sealed for more then 3 days.
Mabey the machine was defective??
Ron, interesting. If the bags lost their seal it'd be because of a bad seal
OR defective bag. I have run across some bags that'll lose their seal, all
it'd take is one microscopic pin whole. I've had occasional bag problems
even with the Tilia 3-ply bags. (The seal is made by simply melting the bag
together in a thin line.)
However, besides coffee greens in vac bags and roasts in mason jars we store
lots of things vac'd. Have some basmati rice vac bagged for about a year so
far, still perfect seal - hard as a rock tight - just checked. (part of a
25# bag we got at Costco, the rest is in the largest Tilia vac canister...)
All in all the system works great, IMO, YMMV.
MM;-)
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6) From: R.N.Kyle
Thanks Mike, It's been long enough that I really can't remember, I asked
Elaine and she said that the rice,and macaroni we sealed stayed sealed. Now
that I'm roasting coffee, and have a nice stash of greens. I might try
another one, and of course we will use it for other things also.
Ron Kyle
Roasting in South Carolina
rnkyle

7) From: Ryuji Suzuki -- JF7WEX
From: "Gregory F. W. Pierce" 
Subject: +tilia food saver
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:55:21 -0400
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  time.
I rarely use it, and never saw a case I would definitely need it.
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  them in the canesters that you can buy that you evacuate the air
  from.
If you use that button with roasted coffee beans in plastic bag,
you'll hear the beans cracking because of the force from pressure
difference.
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If you work out Boyle-Charles law and 24"Hg from Tilia, you know you
are not getting 100% air even if you vacuum override for a while :-)
--
Ryuji Suzuki
"I can't believe I'm here.
People always say that I'm a long way from normal."
(Bob Dylan, Normal, Illinois, 13 February 1999)
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8) From: Rick Farris
"Dan Bollinger"  wrote:
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Do you pull a vacuum on them?  How do they work with the Tilia Foodsaver?=
-- Rick
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9) From: Dan Bollinger
No, just seal them by hand as tell them to use it the next morning.  They
are regular, 1.5 mil bags, nothing special.
"Dan Bollinger"  wrote:
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Do you pull a vacuum on them?  How do they work with the Tilia Foodsaver?
-- Rick
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