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1) From: Charlie Herlihy
Hi all, I stole a couple of posts from alt.coffee today to share with y'all. 
Coffee In Heaven
You'll be greeted
by a nice cup of coffee
when you get to heaven
and the strains of angelic harmony
But wouldn't you be devastated
if they only serve decaffeinated
while from the percolators of hell
your soul was assaulted
by Satan's fresh espresso smell?
by John Agard
from ęPoetry Splash!All rights reserved 
(bad coffee's been around for awile)
 "If this is coffee, then bring me some tea; but if this is tea, then please bring me some coffee"
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2) From: Mike McGinness
While visiting family in Fort Bragg CA over Thanksgiving a bunch of us
roamed around shops Friday. Came across this sign I purchased:
-COFFEE-
It's Not Just A Matter
Of Life or Death...
It's More Important Than That.
MM;-)
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3) From: brooklynne
Good morning all...I read the posts daily, to discover everything I can 
regarding the roasting,brewing,and difference in beans from various locales. 
I did pose a question about the top Hottop filter...would like to replace it 
with something more durable...hoping some of you experts and Hottop owners 
could come up with a useful suggestion. Do hate to critize, but wouldn't it 
be more useful to stick to matters of coffee rather then go on and on about 
language used? As was said already, "the horse is dead"...so let's get back 
to the purpose (I think) of this site.
Do hope I haven't offended anyone...
Sincerely,
Brooklynne

4) From: javafool
I am interested too if someone has found a replacement for the carbon
filter. Haven't thought of any or heard of any yet. I will be more careful
with the second than I was with the first.
I apologize for interrupting the forum with a coffee related topic.
TerryF

5) From: Ed Needham
Brooklynne...
I'm sure you could use any air filter material as long as it is not
combustible and will allow enough airflow.  Experiment with a few types you
can get at your local hardware store and see which works best.  You can be
sure it's not that much of a specialty item.  It's just filter material.
***********************************************
Ed Needham
To Absurdity and Beyond!
homeroaster ... d.o.t ... com
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6) From: Bob Howell
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For Oaxaca Charlie
 
 
Go get em Charlie.  You got on me when I was 
putting coffee on my table for 50 cents a lb.
 
Here is your big moment.
 
 
Sir - The importance of coffee as an agricultural 
commodity cannot be overstated:
its retail value of US$70 billion surpasses 
the forecast of $56 billion for total US
agricultural exports for 2003. 
Although coffee is the world's most heavily traded
commodity apart from oil, 
it has been overproduced for several years: some 117
million 60-kg bags were 
produced in 2002-2003 but only 108 million were consumed.
Overproduction has 
resulted in historically low coffee prices (adjusted for
inflation) of about 50 US cents a pound - the 
measure in which it is sold in
international markets - or $1.10 a kilogram. 
Producing countries received about $5.5
billion out of the $70-billion total 
retail value for 2002-2003, compared with
$10-12 billion received out of the 
$30-billion retail value in the early 1990s.
 
 
I pay $10 pesos a kilo for pergamino.  Lose 
20% for cleaning.  Cost to the roaster at current rate of exchange $ .51 
1/2 cents per lb.,
For which I have to  hand grind to remove 
chaff from beans and then vacuum out the chaff.
 
This accounts for about one fourth of the coffee I 
use in my B&B.  The other 3/4 I buy at the beneficio (processing 
mill).  This season I paid $20 pesos a kilo or about 86 cents a 
lb. for no. 1 Arabica.   Considerably above the world market.  I 
doubt if the mill went back to the grower and paid him more.
 
Bob Howell
Rincon de Guayabitos
Nayarit,
Mexico

7) From: Oaxaca Charlie
--- Bob Howell  wrote:
<Snip>
 Go get who? The "Big 4"? The commodity traders?  Get them with
what, my mighty machete? ;o)
 Tell you what-if the CEO of Proctor and Gamble writes to the
Home Roast list gloating about how he obtained primo coffee for
50 cents a lb from from desperately poor growers, then I'll jump
right in and give a piece of my mind.
<Snip>
which
<Snip>
 Most of the overproduced cheap commodity coffee is crap.
<Snip>
 It's a lot of work, aint it? I've been paying a friend with a
portable dehusker to mill the pergamino, and then we hired a
girl to help sort out defects, 40 lbs of greens at a time, on a
kitchen table. Now that I'm buying by the ton, those fun days
are over, the co-op of growers can bring their crop to a dry
mill from now on if they're serious about getting top dollar for
their coffee. (and they are)
<Snip>
  Can't you deal with Jim from San Cristobal Coffee and the mill
they use in Malinal? They claim to be paying the growers top
dollar, according to quality, and sell decent specialty beans
from there. I wasn't impressed quite enough with samples of this
year's crop-I think that hurracaine really screwed things up-but
I could see the potential in it and I'll try next year's.
 I guess I must have made you feel guilty or something when I
suggested that to me it seemed better to pay the growers you
know a little more for the coffee, if it was so great, and maybe
they wouldn't need as much charity. You and your wife are known
as very generous and helpfull in the area, and you hardly buy
any coffee. Not enough to make much difference to the desperate
coffee growers there, anyway, no matter what you pay for it. I
was thinking of the pride of the grower, who of course would
rather buy his own cloths and medicine with money honestly
earned from his skilled labor. I tried not to be insulting, Bob.
If I was, I'm really sorry. You are by all acounts decent and
caring. Too many coffee traders (which I don't consider you to
be) are not, and just take full advantage of the world price to
scoop up the best, hardest to grow and process beans for
Brazilian prices claiming that it's the rightous thing to do,
offering more money would be socialism or something.
  Let's "get 'em" together, Bob. Support those small producers
with the primo beans any way we can, and keep turning coffee
lovers on to the good Mexican stuff.
  Saludos,
  Charlie
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8) From: Michael Guterman
You people keep doing it to me.  I just ordered the Nicaragua Cup of 
Excellence.  Well over a hundred pounds, now.  And I live alone, except 
for the kitties, and they refuse to drink coffee.  They love Cheerios, 
though.
For anyone who has replaced the chip (I seem to have the 20 second job) 
in their Hottop, was it hard?
Tom's suggestion for a Brazil/Honduras blend sure did make great 
espresso.  Good pourthrough, too.
Michael

9) From: Phil Jordan
Re replacing the chip, Michael, piece of cake. Remove the panel on the side
which covers the buttons and it's obvious what to do - there's only one chip
there so there's no confusion. Note the chip has to go in the right way
round, but it's marked so again that's easy. Randy Glass covers this on his
excellent web site I understand, but it really is so straightforward I for
one did not need to look at that - once I understood where the so-and-so
(can I say that?) chip actually *was*! (many thanks to Wandering John Abbott
for his kind and courteous help there).
Re the coffee stash - I certainly know what you mean. I've got another 36lbs
on its way across the Atlantic - surface rate so I'm getting impatient. Must
have more coffee! It's an addiction. No doubt about it!
Interested about the Brazil / Honduras blend. Did I remember to buy any
Honduras? No - oh dear, here I go again.
All the best
Phil

10) From: dennis staab
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Just received my Rosto a few days ago my Hearthware broke down over a =
week ago........man I was drinking Folgers and getting sick! I roasted =
my Costa Rican La Minita, with the new roaster, today is day three for =
the beans......oh boy is it good!! I've tried a fair amount of different =
coffees, so far I'm really enjoying the Costa Rica, not to heavy not =
light but just right.....for me! 
                                                                         =
                                             Elvis,

11) From: rnkyle
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Sounds like life is good again. Congrats.
cheers
Ron

12) From: Bill Martin
Are there any really GOOD greens that come from Mexico?
How about Puerto Rico?
I have friends in PR, and San Antonio friends who go home to Mexico 
periodically.  Chance to get some green beans, at the source from those 
two places....
But, the friends I have in PR, swear by Crema, which, I gather is sort 
of the National Brand coffee beverage of choice, akin to Folgers or 
something.
Crema didn't impress me.
Bill
When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action. They rented out
my room.  -- Woody Allen

13) From: Wandering John Abbott
Well you can expect to hear from Charlie - but let me state for the
record - YES! The high altitude coffee from the West coast area of
Mexico is very good.  I have about 8 in my stash and they hold up well
on their own and blend well with about anything (well except
Vietnamese).
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 18:21, Bill Martin wrote:
<Snip>

14) From: John Blumel
On May 3, 2004, at 7:21pm, Bill Martin wrote:
<Snip>
Well, there's the Puerto Rico Yauco Selecto that SM's sells. It's not 
my favorite coffee but it's a close second.
John Blumel

15) From: Barry Luterman
I lived in PR for four years. The country folk there roast the beans Then
crush them and put the crushed beans in a white linen sock. They immerse the
sock in boiling water and slowly boil off the water. What is left is a
sludge. .A teaspoon of sludge then is added to boiling water to produce a
home made instant coffee. It's as bad as it seems

16) From: Lesley Albjerg
Bill
The PR Tom is offering is excellent this year.  I still have some good Mexican.  My guess is that Tom's is very good.  You sure can't beat the price.
 
Les
Bill Martin  wrote:
Are there any really GOOD greens that come from Mexico?
How about Puerto Rico?
I have friends in PR, and San Antonio friends who go home to Mexico 
periodically. Chance to get some green beans, at the source from those 
two places....
But, the friends I have in PR, swear by Crema, which, I gather is sort 
of the National Brand coffee beverage of choice, akin to Folgers or 
something.
Crema didn't impress me.
Bill
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17) From: Scott Jensen
Not just Yes, but hell yes!!  Some of the best I've ever had, what I'd
expect a JBM should taste like or did taste like 50 years ago.  Oaxaca
Charlie took me down to Oaxaca Nov 2002 and I brought back some Pluma to die
for (2 suitcases!).  I've got about 60 lbs, out if the 450lbs, I imported
from last years crop left and I will be very sad when it is gone.  This
exquisite coffee just doesn't hit the states.
Scott J
<Snip>

18) From: DJ Garcia
John Blumel said: "Well, there's the Puerto Rico Yauco Selecto that SM's
sells. It's not my favorite coffee but it's a close second."
Is that what's known as a left-handed compliment? :-)
DJ
Smelling a second load of PRYS resting ...

19) From: Bill Martin
And.....???
What would someone who knows nothing about coffee, but on a mission for 
me, ask for?  Where to start looking/asking?  Or do I just save myself 
and my friend a lot of hassle, and just buy from SM??
Bill
On May 3, 2004, at 1:26 PM, Wandering John Abbott wrote:
<Snip>
When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action. They rented out
my room.  -- Woody Allen

20) From: Bill Martin
Oh, great.  Just what I was looking for!  
Bill
On May 3, 2004, at 1:58 PM, Barry Luterman wrote:
<Snip>
When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action. They rented out
my room.  -- Woody Allen

21) From: Wandering John Abbott
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 19:47, Scott Jensen wrote:
<Snip>
Yeah - but now blabber mouth everyone knows about it :O)  Just kidding. 
Trying to find a source for the Pluma has been a constant project for me
since Charlie hooked me as well.  Tom did carry it momentarily then it
went away quietly.
I fly (flew - don't have an active medical) to that area every now and
then in the 310J.  But we were always too far south and west.  I was
thinking the useful load on the 310J would about pay for the trip with
beans.
John

22) From: Peter Barnes
Yes
Bill Martin wrote:
<Snip>

23) From: Bill Martin
Awright!!!  Problem solved!!!
Bill
On May 3, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Peter Barnes wrote:
<Snip>
When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action. They rented out
my room.  -- Woody Allen

24) From: Wandering John Abbott
Unless you are prepared to buy 155# at a time you aren't going to make
any contact in Mexico that will sell you good beans.  Charlie goes down
there and loves on the people (and receives a little loving in return)
and has lived, picked and worked those fields. People there know him and
trust him.  This takes a LONG time to cultivate.  You won't go wrong
hanging with Tom's offerings - ALWAYS safe! Always good.
John - loving life in the slow lane
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 20:04, Bill Martin wrote:
<Snip>

25) From: Oaxaca Charlie
--- Wandering John Abbott  wrote:
<Snip>
 The Finca Olivo beans should be showing up in mid to late May.
Most of the good Pluma (the real stuff from close to Pluma
Hidalgo) was bought up by a Swiss owned export mill for the
highest prices seen in that area for 6 years. It was sent to
Germany. Finca Olivo was offered in on that deal but stuck with
their exporter (they just started getting the cert. organic
premium) so it's on a boat to San Fransisco right now. I passed
by that farm in December, and the crop looked really good,
quality-wise. 
 There might be something decent show up from Loxicha and/or
Putla Oaxaca, also later in May. 
<Snip>
 John-anything more than 40 miles south or west of Pluma 
Hidalgo is in the Pacific ocean. ;o)
 The original "Coffee" post still hasn't reached my server. If
the original poster was asking where his friends could pick up
the best greens, I'll answer off list with a place near Oaxaca
city.
  Charlie
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26) From: Wandering John Abbott
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 22:53, Oaxaca Charlie wrote:
<Snip>
Charlie - take a look at San Francisco, Mexico.  That's our Runway.

27) From: petzul
Wow, this list is so persuasive. Just ordered 10 more pounds for my 
stash, after reading about how great it is!
Thanks for all the great comments.
PeterZ
Definitely need a bigger roaster, here in LHC
<Snip>

28) From: anthony mullendore
There was nothing about coffee here today.
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29) From: Lynne
Except for this...
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM, anthony mullendore 

30) From: raymanowen
"There was nothing about coffee here today.
Except for [that]..."
There is this to say about that- The sentence could be edited. It was about
"Nothing"
Subj:    "nothing"
Verb:    "was"   [was today? Yesterday *WAS*, Today *IS*]
Oh, well- maybe used to the Readers' Guide version of some email threads
that look like a fish net drug through a Klong in Bangkok...
Ind obj: "There"
Diagramming is not all it's cracked up to be, ma and I don't understand
syntax.
"There was nothing about coffee here today." sounds like a complaint on an
exit poll at *$.
 -ro
The Capresso is four years old, and still wetting its diaper.
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