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Topic: The intelligence of people on this list (3 msgs / 119 lines)
1) From: Kevin DuPre
Ed,
I have to agree with you. I for one being new to
roasting and having participated on a number of
message boards since the Internet started was
surprised and amazed to see the level of information
here and helpful folk willing to share what they've
learned.
I have been a practicing electrical and computer
engineer and software architect for about 25 years
now.  Coffee is an obsession for me and when something
is an obsession...well...you know what happens.
I know commercial micro roasters and have witnessed
their operations first hand and cupped their product.
You have both ends of the spectrum - those who think
they can, and those who know they can. Frankly, I got
into this quite by accident one day while searching
for a roasted coffee supplier I could order from over
the Net.  I got my FR and 6 1/2 lbs of green beans for
about $55 and thought "what the heck?" All things
considered after factoring in the roasted product with
a little of my effort, the roaster was about $25.
I was so amazed that I could produce results in line
with the professionals that I've never bought another
pound of roasted coffee retail.  My wife, who in the
past has said "it's just coffee" has even admittedly
become an honorary member of the CSA. She would never
go back and now complains about the taste of the
big-chain coffee.
I think we ought to give ourselves a lot of credit.
There is a ton of great collective knowledge and
experience here and just because we haven't  published
a book doesn't mean we don't know what we're doing. Au
contrere!
Kevin
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2) From: Ben Treichel
Kevin,
Where did you find the FR for 55 with the coffee, I have been looking 
and haven't seen a deal like that.
Or have the prices gone up since they brought out the FR+ ?
FYI, new to the list, but have worked test & embedded (automotive) for 
20 years, sure seems that a cheap 8 or
16 bit (overkill probably) micro could seem like a 'dream machine' for 
these guys in terms of profiling.
Thanks,
Ben
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3) From: Ed Needham
I think it's pretty obvious from time to time that the experts reference our
research and ideas for 'their' brainstorms.  Case in point, David Schomer's
use of a PID for controlling his espresso machines.  He initially came out as
if it was 'his' idea, but when confronted, pretty much admitted he took the
idea from alt.coffee and several of the regulars there.  The Hottop is in
effect being researched and beta tested by homeroasters here and on
alt.coffee, and their input is changing the design.  How about the Solis
Maestro?  I believe mark Prince (CoffeeGeek) who frequents this list and
alt.coffee took comments from both groups to Solis for design improvements
for the finished product.  Who knows how many corporate designers have lifted
ideas from the archives of alt.coffee or here, or reside as lurkers for fear
of having to 'share' an idea with the originator.  It happens.
I worked as an architectural designer for Kentucky Fried Chicken for 9 years,
and ideas for my nationwide, and sometimes worldwide projects came from
anywhere and everywhere.  Many of my design features are still being used on
KFC's standard stores, and many times my ideas were taken from things I saw
in mom and pop restaurants or other fairly insignificant places.  People in
R&D, Marketing, and those with design responsibilities in the corporate world
have incredible pressure to produce innovation and creative ideas for keeping
the edge over competition.  Anything is up for grabs.  I'd be amazed if
Starbucks, Peet's or other major specialty coffee players, maybe Illy
himself, didn't monitor, 'incognito' of course, internet coffee groups.
Ed Needhamhttp://www.homeroaster.comed
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