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Topic: buget espresso (9 msgs / 290 lines)
1) From: R.N.Kyle
Come on all you espresso guru's. I want to get away from my Mr. Coffee =
steam toy. and move up to a respectable entry level machine. I want to =
learn and practice, and then move up to a pro style espresso maker. My =
beget is $150 what can I get at this price?
Ron Kyle
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2) From: Jim Schulman
Krups has just cancelled their last decent product (they relentlessly discontinue anything that 
makes good tasting stuff) -- the Krups Gusto espresso machine, a pump machine with an honest to 
goodness boiler, and no crema or frothing gadgets - around $90, maybe less at overstock places.
If you want to make Lattes, the lowest priced Gaggia, the Carrezza, at around $150, may be a 
better choice. It will do the required 10 to 12 ounces in about 40 seconds, whereas the Krups 
will be petering out after a minute. For the 4 to 6 ounces you need for cappas, the Krups will do 
fine. The Gaggia may also have a slight edge on espresso quality, since it uses a 58mm commercial 
sized basket rather than the 53mm home sized one of the Krups.
These are the two standouts in the low cost machine stakes.
I would urgently advise that you actually spend more on the grinder. The doserless Innova Conical 
is going for around $150 athttp://espressoparts.com/and will give you a grind as good as the 
Mazzer Mini's at 2/5 cost. Tim Reed, the alt.coffee champion of the Gusto, just switched from a 
Mulino to an Innova and seems so amazed that he hasn't quite found his voice yet. The Innova is 
loud, messy, and generally uncouth; whereas the Maestro is civilized and a pleasure to use, but 
the Innova is simply a much better espresso grinder. Amazingly, for an espresso grinder that's 
both good and civilized, you're looking at $400 for a Mazzer.
Jim
On 15 Sep 2002 at 17:07, R.N.Kyle wrote:
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3) From: James Gundlach
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On Sunday, September 15, 2002, at 04:07 PM, R.N.Kyle wrote:
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My first machine was a Gaggia, I got one on eBay for about $130 
including shipping.  It is still my back-up machine and I was happy with 
it during the recent gasket change for the Solis SL-90.  There is one 
just like it at a similar price that just went on.
GAGGIA CAPPACCINO/ESPRESSO COFFEE MACHINE
Item # 2053967917
   It is not near the machine the SL-90 and if I was going to buy again 
at the $400 level, I'd probably go with a Miss Sylvia.
Jim Gundlach
roasting in a wok while it rains.
in La Place, Alabama
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On Sunday, September 15, 2002, at 04:07 PM, R.N.Kyle wrote:
Come on all you espresso guru's. I want to get away from my
Mr. Coffee steam toy. and move up to a respectable entry level
machine. I want to learn and practice, and then move up to a pro style
espresso maker. My beget is $150 what can I get at this price?
My first machine was a Gaggia, I got one on eBay for about $130
including shipping.  It is still my back-up machine and I was happy
with it during the recent gasket change for the Solis SL-90.  There is
one just like it at a similar price that just went on.
Times New RomanGAGGIA
CAPPACCINO/ESPRESSO COFFEE MACHINE 
Item #
2053967917Times New Roman 
  It is not near the machine
the SL-90 and if I was going to buy again at the $400 level, I'd
probably go with a Miss Sylvia.
Jim Gundlach
roasting in a wok while it rains.
in La Place, Alabama
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4) From: Mark Prince
At 02:07 PM 15/09/2002, you wrote:
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That $60 Krups Gusto that's closing out on eBay as we speak:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005QFKC/qid32132436/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-5213417-6911218?v=glance&s=home-garden&nP7846search groups.google.com for why some think it's a good machine for the 
price (mainly Barry Jarrett, who's opinion many trust).
Mark
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5) From: R.N.Kyle
Thanks Jim, I was looking a  discount store today, and they had one =
gusto the display model, and had a bunch of Bravo's the cost 69 and the =
Gusto was 119 both had a 15 bar pump, but no info on the boiler.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
rnkyle

6) From: R.N.Kyle
Thanks James, I was reading about the Gaggia today, and Jim also =
mentioned it. I will do some serious consideration and I do not want to =
make a bad choice.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
rnkyle

7) From: R.N.Kyle
Thanks Mark Jim Schulman was high on the Gusto, and that's more in my =
range 59 dollars is a great price. and I can put the other 90 toward the =
innova grinder that I've read about on this list as a great consistent =
grinder for Espresso
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
rnkyle

8) From: Ed Needham
There are huge bargains out there on great machines for practically nothing,
but it takes a bit of luck and lots of looking.  Ebay, used restaurant
equipment warehouses, even restaurant auctions can turn up incredible deals
on commercial equipment really cheap.  You may have to do some refurb to
bring it back to optimum, but it could be a machine you would be proud of.
I've retired a Gaggia Espresso I originally bought for $99 that could produce
great espresso.  It took quite a bit of fiddling around to get consistently
good shots, but it is not a toy.
Ed Needhamhttp://www.homeroaster.comed
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9) From: R.N.Kyle
Thanks Ed, I went ahead and bought a Krups Gusto from Amazon for 59.99 =
and free shipping. The reviews and opinions of some list members were =
favorable .
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
rnkyle


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