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Topic: Ripe coffee beans (8 msgs / 135 lines)
1) From: The Scarlet Wombat
A Brazilian friend of mine mentioned that the green coffee beans we get and 
love to roast are unripe, that when the fruit is fully ripe, the beans are 
a shade of dull red and contain half the caffeine of the green ones.
First, is this true?  Second, are the ripe beans/seeds usable for roasting 
and brewing coffee?
Dan
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2) From: Mike McGinness
From: "The Scarlet Wombat" 
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and
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Green coffee 'cherries' are indeed not ripe and ripe coffee 'cherries' are
indeed bright dark red. What we roast is not the cherry, but the seed from
the cherry, the ripe cherry. The seed from the ripe red cherry is green.
Green cherries are sorted out in the processing before pulping etc...
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Nope. Yup.
MM;-)
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3) From: Charlie Herlihy
--- The Scarlet Wombat  wrote:
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 Interesting that your Brazilian friend can be so ignorant about
coffee, eh?Probably a Yerba Mate drinker. Mike M. answered your
question pretty well. Plenty of Brazilians(the poorest ones)
probably do brew the dried husks that were the red fruit. It's a
really cheap "coffee substitute" in producing countries, and
nasty, too. With the price of export beans falling so low even
street people might be getting more bean and less husk in their
cup. BTW, with more mechanically harvested coffee becoming the
norm there are a lot more underipe beans in the sacks. Grading
machines get a lot out but not nearly all. Underipened beans
often have a dark splotch where the skin stayed stuck to them
even through the washing and milling process. They have an
astringent "bite" in the cup. Even when hand harvested more tree
stripping is going on since pickers are being paid less per lb.
and have to pick faster to try and make up some of the
differance.  
Charlie
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4) From: EskWIRED
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Is it?  How much do you know about soybeans?
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5) From: Gary Zimmerman
Charlie Herlihy wrote:
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EskWIRED replied:
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Oh touche!
  :-)
-- garyZ
I don't know beans about soy.
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6) From: John Abbott
I know enough to not make any rash claims about soybeans. It's one thing
to live where a crop originates, but another when I claim expertise on
that crop.  And I lived in the middle of soybean land in Indiana. I
didn't know squat about it then and only know that I like them now -
Laura soy beans make great soy milk - roasted at 450 for 45 minutes they
make great snacks - but I don't presume to tell you about how they are
grown and picked.
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 16:03, Gary Zimmerman wrote:
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7) From: Charlie Herlihy
--- EskWIRED  wrote:
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 Well, I've grown them (I'm a farmer, after all) but I get your
point. Guess it's not that interesting ;o)
Charlie
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8) From: Mike McGinness
From: "Gary Zimmerman" 
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eh?
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The point, I think, isn't whether or not someone from Brazil knows about
coffee. The point, I think, was they stated as a fact something about coffee
which was the exact opposite of that which is. Namely, stating ripe cherries
producing red coffee seeds (beans.) They be greens beans from red coffee
cherries. (not to be confused with the Jolly Green Giant green beans:-)
MM;-)
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