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Topic: Krupps Gusto (17 msgs / 400 lines)
1) From: R.N.Kyle
This espresso is a new experience, and I might add not a very successful =
one so far. I have made a couple of cappuccinos that were ok, but the =
the shots I pulled were so bitter I dumped them out. I read some more =
and tried some more, but not much luck so far. When you say a 25 sec. =
pull do you mean you wait 25 sec. from the first drops, and cut it off. =
and is this for a single or a double. I also checked the temp at the =
head and could only get 155 on a std thermometer?? seems real low. Any =
help to this espresso fledgling would be appreciated
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2) From: Jim Schulman
25 seconds from the moment one turns the pump on to getting 2 ounces for a double or 
1 ounce for a single.
155F is way low, but standard RTD thermometers are fairly hopeless for measuring 
temperature. The best technique for these, according to Barry Jarrett, is to stick 
it through a styrofoam cup, cut off the top of the cup, run two ounces into it 
directly from the shower screen, and read the temp. This will read about 10F lower 
than the actual brew temperature, so should be in the 185 to 195 range. If it's 
lower, run the heater a few seconds extra when the ready to brew signal is given by 
turning the machine to steam mode for 5 to 10 seconds (this forces on the heater).
BTW, bitter is a sign of overextraction, sour a sign of too low a brew temp.
Jim
On 22 Sep 2002 at 21:04, R.N.Kyle wrote:
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3) From: C. Marley
"R.N.Kyle" wrote:
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I have very nice coffee from the little Krups.  What are you using as
espresso?  Start with a nice sweet coffee at not more than a full city
roast.  Miel stopped at the first snaps of 2nd crack is a good choice. 
Pull a double shot, turn the pump off after you have 2 oz, so that you
don't over extract, put it in a mug and fill with hot water. You should
get a very tasty, non-bitter cup of coffee. If that tastes good to you,
you are on the right track.  Your espresso is good.  
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4) From: R.N.Kyle
Thank you Jim
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
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5) From: R.N.Kyle
Thank you Cathy, I do not have any Miel, what would you recommend as =
good substitute.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
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6) From: EuropaChris
Ron, what kind of grinder do you have?
Chris
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7) From: R.N.Kyle
hey Chris, I have a Homes Essential from QVC it is a flat burr and does =
a decent job with a little dust, and I have a weed wacker. My next =
purchase will be a innova conical burr grinder.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
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8) From: EuropaChris
Well, your grinder is very likely the cause of the bitterness.  The cheaper flat burr grinders are fine for drip, but horrible for espresso.  THe dust created overextracts and gives the bitterness.  Even a good but worn grinder (my older Solis 166) was giving really bitter, harsh shots from my Silvia.  The Rocky made all that go away!
It's funny to spend >$200 on a grinder to go with a $60 espresso maker, but a $40 grinder will make a $2000 espresso maker give undrinkable coffee.
Spend the money on a good grinder ONCE and you'll be done with it.  A cheap espresso machine will give amazingly yummy coffee.  I had a little Saeco Maestro machine for a while.  It would give the Silvia a run for shot quality.  It looked like a joke, but sure worked good - after I got a good grinder!
Chris
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9) From: C. Marley
"R.N.Kyle" wrote:
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I would suggest you go to the SM website and read the reviews of the
beans you do have and make your selection based on Tom's writeups.  He
is quite accurate about the relative taste aspects of his coffees.
 
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11) From: R.N.Kyle
Chris you are probably correct, it seems no matter what I do I still get =
a bitter shot. I must get a decent conical burr grinder, I've heard good =
reports about the Nova I believe that was the name. thanks for your help
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
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12) From: R.N.Kyle
 thanks to all that have replied to this post, the information has =
helped 
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13) From: R.N.Kyle
Is there a way to drain the boiler on the Gusto, other then running it =
dry with the pump, which doesn't seem to be a good method. I have no =
counter space, and store it each night in an old pie safe, converted to =
a coffee equipment storage cupboard. Thanks in Advance for the replies.
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14) From: EuropaChris
Why do you need to drain it to store it???  Is the pie safe in an unheated location that might freeze?  If it's not going to freeze, just dump out the reservoir and leave the boiler alone.  It won't hurt a thing.
Otherwise, to drain the boiler, heat the machine up to steam temp, turn it upside down, and open the steam valve.  Obviously, watch out for the hot water shooting out.  At least on the Silvia, the steam tap is on the very top of the boiler, so if you turn it upside down, the steam pressure forces all the water out the want.  It works a treat for descaling, too.  I'm not sure if the Gusto has this same arrangement, but that's how to do it if it does.  
Actually, running the pump won't empty the boiler.  The pump forces water into the boiler, but if the reservoir runs out, the pump stops pumping water IN, but whatever was in the boiler will stay there due to the way water is usually drawn off from higher in the boiler (again, Silvia is the example).
Hope this helps!!!
Chris
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15) From: jim gundlach
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 07:27 AM, Chris Beck wrote:
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It seems so obvious.  Why  didn't I think of that?  It should work with 
all the machines, including the SL-90, because the steam has to come 
off the top.
Jim Gundlach
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16) From: EuropaChris
That was my yearly stroke of genius.  Now it's back to my usual strive for mediocrity.
Chris
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17) From: R.N.Kyle
Thanks Chris, I'm sorry for the late reply, My email has been on the =
blink, and have just received your Gusto reply. today on the 19 th. 4 =
days late.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
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