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Topic: Black Bear Roasters (7 msgs / 110 lines)
1) From: John
You know, we had a real battle over certifying coffee authors as expert
- Elli and that Genre were challenged.  But now I'm beginning to think
that Black Bear must be THE EXPERTS.  I see a never ending reference to
them as THE reference for roasting profiles.  How did they get to such
an amazing status when I had never heard of them before Starbucks sued
them?  Has anyone on the list ACTUALLY tried any of their coffee?  I
guess I left some pages out of my manual... the one that says Starbucks
is bad but Black Bear is good.
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2) From: Jim Schulman
On 27 Sep 2002 at 17:12, John wrote:
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Here's my experience. I'd added a variac to my FR to "profile" roasts. I was going absolutely 
nowhere on getting repeatable results. The Blackbear profile, especially the part about a shot of 
heat to start the first crack, then backing off hard to stop the run away, gets published on this 
list. Wow! it works! All of a sudden all of us dimmer and variac types can control both the roast 
time and color consistently, and we can really start experimenting. It's brought my roasting 
experience to a whole new level.
Given that, I don't much care how his coffee tastes (for all I know, his likes and dislikes may be 
completely different from mine). His publishing a roast profile that works for many home roasting 
set ups makes him an expert in my eyes.
Jim
Jim
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3) From: James Gundlach
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 05:12 PM, John wrote:
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They actually tell us what they do and why they do it.  We can follow 
their directions and when we do, we notice an improvement in our 
coffee.  I've never tried their coffee, it would be stale by the time 
UPS delivered it to La Place, Alabama.
Jim Gundlach
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4) From: Dan Bollinger
fyi: The BB roasting method is described here:http://www.blackbearcoffee.com/Roasting%20Process.htm Dan
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gets published on this
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control both the roast
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brought my roasting
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5) From: Charlie Herlihy
 I've never seem Starbucks' or any one eles' roasting profile
descrbibed anywhere. Have you, John?. I just know that the BB
one works for me. A great starting point to work with and
hopefully improve on and perfect someday.
 Charlie
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6) From: John
Charlie,
  I agree 100%  But I'm not using it to prove anything. My consternation
was over the fact that BB profile was being used as evidence of the
superiority of roasting speed by someone who had jumped all over the
expertise of some folks being quoted earlier. 
  The bottom line for me is the way it works for the majority of us. I
had modified my FR and FR+ roasting profiles, as many have done, with
great success. I have completely enjoyed the drum roasts the HotTop
produces and as a result feel that the slower roast are "better" When I
had a dirty tank in the Solis - I roasted some beans in the FR+ and they
were very good - but not as good as the same bean in the HT.
On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 00:36, Charlie Herlihy wrote:
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7) From: EskWIRED
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I picture a slanted trough, like a rain gutter, passing through the fires of
hell, and continuously dumping into a series of wheelbarrows manned by
Oompaloompas.
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