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Topic: Italians prefer espresso (10 msgs / 144 lines)
1) From: John
The results from Virtual Italy's poll of Italian coffee drinkers.
Amazing?
CAPPUCCINO, ESPRESSO, LATTE....
                 A new survey that more than 70 million cups of espresso
are gulped down in Italy's 110,000 coffee bars each day -- about 600
shots per person a year, or the highest espresso consumption in the
world.  Four out of five Italians say a morning trip to their local
coffee bar is a necessity, the survey of 700 showed. Men between 35 and
54 are the most dedicated drinkers. Of the various styles of coffee, 
                 
74% of Italians prefer straight-up espresso, 10% drink macchiato 
(coffee with a hint of milk), and 8% go for ristretto -- a type of 
coffee that is stronger than espresso. Cappuccino, the default 
choice of wannabe-Italians the world over, hardly figures in its 
homeland where diehards don't even consider it a proper coffee.
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2) From: Jim Schulman
John
Thanks for the great post. I guess if I lived in Italy, I wouldn't be home roasting (or even making coffee at home). 
110,000 espresso bars -- wow!
Jim
On 6 Oct 2002 at 21:42, John wrote:
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3) From: Angelo
 From what I understand, the Cappuccino was "invented" in New York at the 
Cafe Reggio in Little Italy.
If this is true, it might explain why it's not so popular in Italy.
Ciao,
Angelo
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4) From: Dan Bollinger
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That's one for every 525 Italians!  In Oregon, there is a small town of 7600
people that has 7 coffee shops, About one per thousand, probably the highest
density in the country.   Interesting.  Dan
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5) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 05:02 10/7/02, Dan Bollinger typed:
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I knew I lived in the right state.  In Myrtle Creek, Oregon, where I work, 
the listed population is 1320 and we have TWO shops, with real coffee and 
espresso (actually fresh roasted, about 30 miles away).
--
John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Roasting and Blending by Gestalt
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6) From: Dan Bollinger
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John,  Trash those ideas for opening an espresso bar, you've reached
saturation!  You'll have to move, sorry.  :(  Dan
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7) From: John Carls
A few notes and thoughts on coffee in Italy.
It is my understanding that cappuccini were developed in Sicily, and were
named after the Cappuccin Monks who wore brown robes and a white cap.  Its
been my experince that the Italians will throw down a sweetened single
expresso which you order as 'un cafe'' -a double is cafe' doppio -  in the
morning with a dolce - a pastry - another Italian art form.  They will
possibly have a cap in the late morning and ordering one in the evening or
after dinner is considered bad form and tags you as an American tourist.  A
couple other notes:  Macchiato means a small spot or stain in Italian - a
cafe macchiato is an espresso with a spot of latte and a latte macchiato is
basically a glass of heated milk with a spot of cafe.  Cafe Americano will
get you a cup of hot water and a shot.  Cafe con latte is a glass of heated
milk with a shot on the side.  A cafe correto is a shot with a shot of
liquor' .  You drink your cafe' standing at the bar - seating when available
costs extra.
Customs and names change from North to South but if you find a  spot out of
the tourist areas and order un cafe' you will get a wonderful shot.
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8) From: Jeffrey A. Bertoia
John
You concur almost exactly with my experience.  The ontly difference that 
I saw
was that most tended to order a cafe con latte first thing in the morning.
This is an excellant description of coffee in Italy.
jeff
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9) From: jerry
Re this thread:  I don't recall that anyone has corrected the spellling of the
Italian fomr of the word.  It's caffe, not cafe.  --  Jerry Green
"Jeffrey A. Bertoia" wrote:
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10) From: Renaud Dreyer
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As long, as we're being precise, it's neither. The word is "caffè".
Ciao,
           Renaud Dreyer
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