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Topic: Best way to store ground coffee? (10 msgs / 294 lines)
1) From: Darren Conrad
Thanks to all for their suggestions on the best way to degas fresh roasted
beans.  It sounds like the method I am using is consistent with most folks
(glass mason jars, grind and drink it all within a few days of roasting
anyway!)
Now, for a question that may make some of you shudder: how to best store coffee
beans that have been ground?  Here's my dilema, I'd like to send some of my
home roast to family and friends as gifts, but some of them don't own a
grinder.  I'd hate to send some nice beans to my Mom, for example, only to
learn that she snuck into the Safeway and used their nasty grinder right after
someone ground some Irish Cream beans >YUCK<.  My Mother-in-law has been known
to use her blender as well!
I'm thinking the vaccum bags are going to be the best method and obviously the
flavor will be a far cry from freshly ground, but better than the "brick"
coffee they drink now.  Should I also consider the Fresh Paks (Oxygen
absorbers) in the vacuum bags and where can I locate these?
Thanks again for your advice!
Darren
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2) From: Jim Garlits
I don't give ground beans to anyone.  The whole point is to get the freshest
cup you can, and you just can't do that unless you grind right before you
brew.  IMHO, even the cheapest Mr. Coffee blade grinder is going to give you
a better cup than grinding it with a high end burr and letting it sit.  So,
to
"But I don't have a grinder."
    you reply
"Walmart.  Coffee aisle, they're only fifteen bucks."
Or else buy them one as a gift and throw it in a bag with the fresh beans.
But thats just me.
Jim G.

3) From: Gary Zimmerman
That's what I'd do too.  Just buy 'em a grinder.  They'll be amazed at the 
difference fresh grinding makes, even if they just buy Starbucks beans for 
everyday use.  Beats Folgers... unless they've gotten used to Folgers and 
think that's great coffee.
-- garyZ
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4) From: Irene and Lubos Palounek
"Best way to store ground coffee?" is a question in the category:
"Best way to store boiling water" if someone wants to boil eggs in few days
and does not have a source of heat, or
"Best way to store freshly whipped cream"
"Best way to store nicely blazing fire in a fireplace"
"Best way to store ice cream in hot weather without an ice box or
refrigerator"
"Best way to store fresh hot sup in freezing weather"
"Best way to store a snowman over hot summer"
There are many things that you just don't store if you want to keep them
fresh and nice.
---
-- "But I don't have a grinder."
-- you reply:
-- "Wal-Mart.  Coffee aisle, they're only fifteen bucks."
-- Or else buy them one as a gift and throw it in a bag with the fresh
beans.
-- But that's just me...
wrote Jim.
It is not just you, Jim.  I believe that what 99.9% plus of CSA people would
do.
If you consider the money you spend on the coffee and packing material and
box and shipping and consider the time you spend ... the cost of a low-en
coffee grinder is negligible. I would go to Wal-Mart and buy a grinder for
each of your friends whom you want to give coffee if they don't have a
grinder. I would add a note that, if they want further improve the taste,
they should buy a  burr grinder with few suggestions.
If you do not want to do that -- I would forget about giving home-roasted
coffee at all. Giving fresh roasted coffee already ground is like sending
somebody freshly baked home bread -- put it in the mailbox late evening
before the weekend, so that in some ten days they will taste your freshly
baked home bread. (You may even add some butter to spread on the bread.)
Regards, Lubos
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5) From: Rick Farris
Darren wrote:
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Actually, assuming your family is drinking filter-drip coffee, they're way
better off using a blender than for you to pre-grind the coffee.
And for those close to you, one of those little whirly coffee-grinders
(often available for less than $20) would make a nice go-along gift to
present with your coffee...
-- Rick
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6) From: John
Darren,
I used FoodSaver vacuum bags ONCE to ship ground beans to friends. The
coffee was "Wonderful" according to them - but then they buy commercial
coffee!  We subsequently bought them a whirly blade "grinder" and send
them whole beans now. They claim there is little or no difference.
But... they buy commercial coffee :O)
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 10:56, Darren Conrad wrote:
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7) From: Mark A. Chalkley
Yep, Lubos, I think that about covers it.  I know of very few people,
actually who would "appropriately" appreciate a give of home-roasted
coffee and don't already have a grinder.  These days, most of the rank
and file consumers who consider themselves attuned to the taste of
"fresh" coffee (I'm not talking about the ones who think that means
the top half of the 2 1/2 pound can) buy "high quality" whole bean
coffee and grind it with a whirly-blade.  I think the intersection of
the sets of those who would appreciate the gift and those who don't
own a grinder is so small that most gift coffee given to those without
a grinder would be casting your pearls before swine...
Mark C.
On Monday, October 14, 2002, 2:22:05 PM, you wrote:
IaLP> "Best way to store ground coffee?" is a question in the category:
IaLP> "Best way to store boiling water" if someone wants to boil eggs in few days
IaLP> and does not have a source of heat, or
IaLP> "Best way to store freshly whipped cream"
IaLP> "Best way to store nicely blazing fire in a fireplace"
IaLP> "Best way to store ice cream in hot weather without an ice box or
IaLP> refrigerator"
IaLP> "Best way to store fresh hot sup in freezing weather"
IaLP> "Best way to store a snowman over hot summer"
IaLP> There are many things that you just don't store if you want to keep them
IaLP> fresh and nice.
IaLP> ---
IaLP> -- "But I don't have a grinder."
IaLP> -- you reply:
IaLP> -- "Wal-Mart.  Coffee aisle, they're only fifteen bucks."
IaLP> -- Or else buy them one as a gift and throw it in a bag with the fresh
IaLP> beans.
IaLP> -- But that's just me...
IaLP> wrote Jim.
IaLP> It is not just you, Jim.  I believe that what 99.9% plus of CSA people would
IaLP> do.
IaLP> If you consider the money you spend on the coffee and packing material and
IaLP> box and shipping and consider the time you spend ... the cost of a low-en
IaLP> coffee grinder is negligible. I would go to Wal-Mart and buy a grinder for
IaLP> each of your friends whom you want to give coffee if they don't have a
IaLP> grinder. I would add a note that, if they want further improve the taste,
IaLP> they should buy a  burr grinder with few suggestions.
IaLP> If you do not want to do that -- I would forget about giving home-roasted
IaLP> coffee at all. Giving fresh roasted coffee already ground is like sending
IaLP> somebody freshly baked home bread -- put it in the mailbox late evening
IaLP> before the weekend, so that in some ten days they will taste your freshly
IaLP> baked home bread. (You may even add some butter to spread on the bread.)
IaLP> Regards, Lubos
IaLP>
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8) From: Darren Conrad
OK - I get the point.  I thought it would be heresy to suggest storing ground
coffee, but thought I'd get feedback on it anyway.  The analogy of fresh-baked
bread really sunk in...
Sending a gift pack with vacuum-sealed whole beans and a grinder sounds like
the way to go.  It will be something that they can't get anywhere else and it
will raise their coffee drinking experience to a whole new level.  Then, I'll
be facing the "can you send me more?" requests, but that will just give me an
excuse to increase my green purchases!
Thanks everyone!
Darren
-- Lubos wrote:
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9) From: Steven Van Dyke
Cabela's sells a little hand one for $17.99.  It's under Camping / Cooking
Equipment / Food Preparation - here's the long URL directly to it:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/vertical-item.jhtml?id=0009875511706a&navAction=push&navCount=5&indexId=cat20099&podId09875&catal
ogCode&parentId=cat20099&parentType=index&rid=
This is what I use at work and on trips.  On mine I find the grind at about
1.25 turns out from fully tight gives a pretty good grind for drip coffee -
not so fine that I get much sediment through my permanent filter, not so
coarse I get bad extraction.
Enjoy!
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10) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 12:33 10/14/02, Darren Conrad typed:
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Unfortunately, you may get "Yeah, it was ok for home roasted coffee, but I 
like "real" coffee from the store.  I had that once.  Big let down :-(
--
John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Roasting and Blending by Gestalt
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