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Topic: New Roaster Questions (7 msgs / 160 lines)
1) From: Leslie Smith
RE: brewing immediately versus resting the beans:
I am something of a scent hound, I guess.  My family calls me "The Bionic 
Nose," so maybe that's why I prefer my coffee beans to rest about a day 
before brewing.  I tried brewing some beans only rested for two hours 
yesterday, and I didn't love them.  (On the other hand, there are lots of 
variables I didn't control for, so I should make a more scientific test 
sometime.)
OK, a question:  I just bought a Pump 'n Seal hand vacuum pump, based on a 
recommendation from someone on the list (sorry, I've forgotten who you 
are!), and I wanna know, do people vacuum seal the beans right after 
roasting (and achieving room temp, of course), or do you wait for them to 
degas a few hours?
   - Leslie Smith
     Newbie Whirley-Pop Roaster
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2) From: Mark A. Chalkley
I vac-seal them (using a Vac-U-Vin cannister) immediately after
cooling.  Subsequent degassing decreases the vacuum fairly quickly, so
I usually re-vac a few hours after the initial one, but I doubt it
makes much difference whether you vac a second time or not.
Mark C.
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, 11:45:03 AM, you wrote:
LS> RE: brewing immediately versus resting the beans:
LS> I am something of a scent hound, I guess.  My family calls me "The Bionic 
LS> Nose," so maybe that's why I prefer my coffee beans to rest about a day 
LS> before brewing.  I tried brewing some beans only rested for two hours 
LS> yesterday, and I didn't love them.  (On the other hand, there are lots of 
LS> variables I didn't control for, so I should make a more scientific test 
LS> sometime.)
LS> OK, a question:  I just bought a Pump 'n Seal hand vacuum pump, based on a 
LS> recommendation from someone on the list (sorry, I've forgotten who you 
LS> are!), and I wanna know, do people vacuum seal the beans right after 
LS> roasting (and achieving room temp, of course), or do you wait for them to 
LS> degas a few hours?
LS>    - Leslie Smith
LS>      Newbie Whirley-Pop Roaster
LS> At 08:36 PM 10/13/02 -0700, you wrote:
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3) From: R.N.Kyle
Hey Leslie,
I vacuum seal with a Food Saver right after the beans cool to room temp. =
I conducting a test know, storing in a Mason jar not sealed compared to =
sealing in a Mason Jar Vac sealed over a weeks time. I will report my =
findings back to the list. Have a good day. I still feel that its best =
to roast only what you can consume in a 3 to 5 day period.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
rnkyle

4) From: EskWIRED
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You might be better off sealing into the FoodSaver bags, because the mason
jar will have headspace.  The bags will compress, and a lot more air will be
evacuated.  Both of them will attain the same level of vacuum, but the
volume of air remaining will be very different.
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5) From: R.N.Kyle
Good point, I hadn't really thought about the total volume.
I do have some 1/2 pint jars used for jelly, and 4 oz. of beans fill =
these little devils up to the top. little or no head space. I just think =
the jars a more convenient and over the long run a lot cheaper.  Thanks =
for the info.
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
rnkyle

6) From: EskWIRED
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But the bags compress around the beans, and conform to their shape, while
the jars trap air between the beans and the edge of the jar.  I don't know
how significant the difference is.
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7) From: Mike McGinness
From: "EskWIRED" 
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For short term, say a week, I believe jars ok. At least, that's what I use.
Simplest to pop the dome, pour the beans for grind, re-vac jar, then grind.
And the domes last for many uses. For longer than that, like a two week
vacation for biz' trip, definitely bags. Less air = less oxygen... Though
I've come to believe oxygen and oxidization is only one part of the staling
issue.
MM;-)
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