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Topic: Politics: was - Digital Temperature probe OK for air popper? (12 msgs / 323 lines)
1) From: Dave Huddle
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Speaking of politics...
Anybody else hear about the COFFEE issue on the ballot in Berkeley today?http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1024-05.htmThe issue would restrict the sale of brewed coffee sold in Berkeley to
be from fair-trade, organic & shade-grown beans.
"Any business vendor who violates the ordinance would be guilty of a
misdemeanor, fined $100 or face up to six months in jail or both."
The National Coffee Association has denounced the measure.
Interesting !?
Dave  	
Westerville, OH   (Home of the Anti-Saloon League and later home of the
Temperance Education Foundation)
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2) From: Mark A. Chalkley
As with a lot of things, it was a great idea until the politicians got
involved in it.  It makes folks like me want to run out and buy all
the unfair-trade, inorganinc (wonder what _that_ would be...),
sun-grown coffee I can get my hands on, no matter how bad it tastes.
Of course, in the end, the only thing it will really accomplish is to
keep me from ever going to Berkeley, just in case that level of
stupidity and meddling in other people's business (without even,
apparently, the slightest idea of the immorality of the concept) might
be contagious.
Mark C.
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 12:09:43 PM, Dave Huddle wrote:
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DH> Speaking of politics...
DH> Anybody else hear about the COFFEE issue on the ballot in Berkeley today?
DH>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1024-05.htmDH> The issue would restrict the sale of brewed coffee sold in Berkeley to
DH> be from fair-trade, organic & shade-grown beans.
DH> "Any business vendor who violates the ordinance would be guilty of a
DH> misdemeanor, fined $100 or face up to six months in jail or both."
DH> The National Coffee Association has denounced the measure.
DH> Interesting !?
DH> Dave    
DH> Westerville, OH   (Home of the Anti-Saloon League and later home of the
DH> Temperance Education Foundation)
DH>
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3) From: John Abbott
THIS is the reason I went into ministry - I couldn't stand having my
undergrad degree from Bizarrely hanging on the wall :O)
You can tell that these folks don't live on the same planet as the rest of
us - and I'm glad!

4) From: jim gundlach
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:21 PM, Mark A. Chalkley wrote:
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I think they call it Folgers.
Jim Gundlach
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5) From: Mark A. Chalkley
Man, you sure know how to kill a crusade, doncha?  I'd sure never have
taken that strong a stand, if I'd known what I was sayin'! ;>)
Mark C.
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 5:51:38 PM, jim gundlach wrote:
jg> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:21 PM, Mark A. Chalkley wrote:
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jg> I think they call it Folgers.
jg> Jim Gundlach
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6) From: Dave Huddle
So - does anyone on the list know how the Bizarrely coffee vote turned
out?
Dave
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7) From: Mark A. Chalkley
Here's the page that summarizes the vote:http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/1151140.htmIf you trust me to report what it says, the measure was defeated 22352
votes to 9564.
Mark C. (Laughing hysterically...)
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 8:50:36 AM, Dave Huddle wrote:
DH> So - does anyone on the list know how the Bizarrely coffee vote turned
DH> out?
DH> Dave
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8) From: jim gundlach
It did not pass, so said NPR.
Jim Gundlach
La Place, Alabama
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 07:50 AM, Dave Huddle wrote:
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9) From: Renaud Dreyer
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It lost, 70% NO:http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/1151140.htmDoes that mean people on this list will continue insulting 100% of a 
whole city, or only 30% of its voting citizens? Ciao,
               Renaud Dreyer
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10) From: John Abbott
Renaud,
For my part YES! Those folks continue to elect judges and politicians who
have such incredibly diverse views with the rest of the nation that it just
seems appropriate. I'm not familiar with ALL those citizens, but we are all
painfully aware of their impact on national and statewide politics.

11) From: Renaud Dreyer
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Thanks. You can start by insulting me, if you'd like, though 
unfortunately I don't vote.
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Please feel free to bring up any example (especially of judges). I
find it interesting that you find "diverse views" to be worth
insulting. A lot of Europeans, for example, could say that US voters
"continue to elect judges and politicians who have such incredible
diverse views with the rest of the world".
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Such as?
To keep this coffee related, I was interested to notice that 
TransFair USA actually opposed the Berkeley Coffee Initiative. Ciao,
              Renaud Dreyer
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12) From: Mark A. Chalkley
For an even more in-depth article on the Berkeley coffee diversion,
seehttp://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/06/elec02.california.coffee.reut/index.html.The article is sub-titled "Too little, too latte" - har, har, har -
but it's pretty good.
Mark C.
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 9:43:07 AM, Mark A. Chalkley wrote:
MAC> Here's the page that summarizes the vote:http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/1151140.htmMAC> If you trust me to report what it says, the measure was defeated 22352
MAC> votes to 9564.
MAC> Mark C. (Laughing hysterically...)
MAC> On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 8:50:36 AM, Dave Huddle wrote:
DH>> So - does anyone on the list know how the Bizarrely coffee vote turned
DH>> out?
DH>> Dave
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