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Topic: Getting the grind right for Vac Pots (8 msgs / 186 lines)
1) From: Daniel MacKay
Howdy!
For coffee after fine dining at my home, I usually brew vac coffee, 
in either a 1936 Silex with its own little stove, right on the table, 
or in the mighty chrome Sunbeam Electric vac pot.
For the former, sometimes it will draw the liquor back to the bottom 
pot in a couple of minutes, and sometimes it takes a LONG time - like 
a half hour, which is tedious to wait for between courses.  I'm 
assuming this is because I do not have a consistent grind.
My partner bought me a hand coffee mill and it MIGHT be a little 
better but I wouldn't swear to it, and besides it doesn't have any 
kind of setting marks, so even if I could get to the right grind by 
trial and error (which I don't seem to be able to do anyway) I 
wouldn't be able to tell if it had been twiddled with.  So I don't 
get particularly better results with the hand mill, than with the 
little Braun electric grinder.
If anyone has any tips for getting the grind consistently right, I'd 
sure like to hear them.
Thanks! -dan
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2) From: Ben Treichel
If its a zass mill about 1/2 turn after you don't hear any burr noise, 
then mark it with a marker (someone else's idea, thanks to them). That's 
a good starting point.
I would call 1/2 hour a 'stall'. First make sure you have enough heat 
when brewing, and second, a stall can be 'speeded up' by wiping the 
outside of the pot with a cold rag, and also moving the pot to a new 
'cooler' spot.
 From what I can tell, if you have a decent grinder, just short of 
dropping an espresso grind into a vac pot, you shouldn't get a stall.
One other thing, is the gasket soft on the pot, if the vac leaks due to 
a hardened gasket, that could cause problems.
Be
Daniel MacKay wrote:
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3) From: David Westebbe
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What kind of filter does your pot have?  If it is a cloth filter, you might
be clogging it up with fine powder if you have an inconsistent grind.
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4) From: Daniel MacKay
Howdy!
For coffee after fine dining at my home, I usually brew vac coffee, 
in either a 1936 Silex with its own little stove, right on the table, 
or in the mighty chrome Sunbeam Electric vac pot.
For the former, sometimes it will draw the liquor back to the bottom 
pot in a couple of minutes, and sometimes it takes a LONG time - like 
a half hour, which is tedious to wait for between courses.  I'm 
assuming this is because I do not have a consistent grind.
My partner bought me a hand coffee mill and it MIGHT be a little 
better but I wouldn't swear to it, and besides it doesn't have any 
kind of setting marks, so even if I could get to the right grind by 
trial and error (which I don't seem to be able to do anyway) I 
wouldn't be able to tell if it had been twiddled with.  So I don't 
get particularly better results with the hand mill, than with the 
little Braun electric grinder.
If anyone has any tips for getting the grind consistently right, I'd 
sure like to hear them.
Thanks! -dan
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5) From: Daniel MacKay
Howdy!
For coffee after fine dining at my home, I usually brew vac coffee, 
in either a 1936 Silex with its own little stove, right on the table, 
or in the mighty chrome Sunbeam Electric vac pot.
For the former, sometimes it will draw the liquor back to the bottom 
pot in a couple of minutes, and sometimes it takes a LONG time - like 
a half hour, which is tedious to wait for between courses.  I'm 
assuming this is because I do not have a consistent grind.
My partner bought me a hand coffee mill and it MIGHT be a little 
better but I wouldn't swear to it, and besides it doesn't have any 
kind of setting marks, so even if I could get to the right grind by 
trial and error (which I don't seem to be able to do anyway) I 
wouldn't be able to tell if it had been twiddled with.  So I don't 
get particularly better results with the hand mill, than with the 
little Braun electric grinder.
If anyone has any tips for getting the grind consistently right, I'd 
sure like to hear them.
Thanks! -dan
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6) From: Les & Becky
Dan,
Buy a Rocky!  I have one of those old wonderful Silex vac setups too.  I
bring it out for special occasions.
Les

7) From: Daniel MacKay
Howdy!
For coffee after fine dining at my home, I usually brew vac coffee, 
in either a 1936 Silex with its own little stove, right on the table, 
or in the mighty chrome Sunbeam Electric.
For the former, sometimes it will draw the liquor back to the bottom 
pot in a couple of minutes, and sometimes it takes a LONG time - like 
a half hour, which is tedious to wait for between courses.  I'm 
assuming this is because I do not have a consistent grind.
My partner bought me a hand coffee mill and it MIGHT be a little 
better but I wouldn't swear to it, and besides it doesn't have any 
kind of setting marks, so even if I could get to the right grind by 
trial and error (which I don't seem to be able to do anyway) I 
wouldn't be able to tell if it had been twiddled with.  So I don't 
get particularly better results with the hand mill, than with the 
little Braun electric grinder.
If anyone has any tips for getting the grind consistently right, I'd 
sure like to hear them.
Thanks! -dan
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8) From: David Lewis
At 5:08 PM -0400 1/4/03, Daniel MacKay wrote:
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If the hand mill is a Zassenhaus, you should be able to get a pretty 
consistent grind out if it. Just take a Sharpie and mark the knob, 
then hold it with the index finger of the hand that's holding the 
grinder body steady while the other hand grinds. I'm not familiar 
with the filters used in those vac pots, but certainly the Hario and 
Cona are pretty fussy about grind. I use a fairly new Solis Maestro 
when traveling, and I can tell the difference between using that and 
the modified Grinta I use at home. This may not be what you want to 
hear, I know.
Best,
	David
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