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Topic: Beans after roasting (6 msgs / 127 lines)
1) From: Bob Howell
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I would like to hear some comments on treatment of beans immediately =
after roasting.
I have read:   Use them right away.   Let them breath overnight.  Store =
in an airtight container for 24 hours, and a few more. 
It is a little confusing.  I have tried all of the above but I reallly =
don`t notice any difference in flavor.  
Bob Howell
Nayarit, Mexico

2) From: David Westebbe
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  It is a little confusing.  I have tried all of the above but I reallly
don`t notice any difference in flavor.
  It depends a lot on the type of bean and the degree of roast if you
believe the lore.  Some people swear that they age their beans 4 days before
the taste peaks.
  I wonder if the main thing happening is a dulling of the acidity, and that
espresso drinkers notice it, and appreciate it, more than those who drink
other types of coffee.

3) From: jim gundlach
Bob,
     The most important issue is cooling the beans once they are 
roasted.  You need to get the beans down to a temperature where they 
are comfortable to touch in less than two minutes after taking the heat =
off.  Different beans have different resting requirements.  If you 
mention the  bean(s) your are using, you will more than likely get some =
opinions from people on the list who roast the same.
Jim Gundlach
On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 08:37 AM, Bob Howell wrote:
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reallly 
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4) From: Ken Mary
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IMO fast roasts taste better after a day or two, but slower is good right
from the roaster. Degassing for 4 to 12 hours seems to remove the harshness
in some roasts. Longer "aging" develops more of the body and chocolatey
flavors. I usually store in an open jar for the 3 to 4 days until it is
gone. Exposure to air seems to give more chocolate than storage in a closed
jar. Longer term storage is in a closed jar in the freezer. Bean origin does
not seem to make any difference to me.
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5) From: Sharon Allsup
On 22 Dec 2002, at 7:37, Bob Howell wrote:
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"It depends".  In my experience, the monsooned and aged coffees 
taste better after 24+ hours aging, sometimes 72+, whereas most 
others peak around 12-24 hours.  There are so many variables with 
the degree of roast and airtightness of storage that I couldn't really 
say anything other than "putting the just-roasted beans in a ziplock 
or ideally a one-way valve bags right away and letting it sit 
overnight consistently makes great coffee".
One definite I've noticed is that if the beans haven't rested at least 8 
or so hours, there is a taste I can only describe as sort of 'grassy'.  
It's not overwhelming, but it does negatively affect the overall taste.
OTOH, on those days when I've forgotten to roast the night before, 
I've gotten rid of those oddball grassy taste notes by grinding the 
coffee as soon as it cools and letting that sit in the one-way-valve 
bags for an hour or so.  The taste is not as knockout as when it's 
rested overnight, but the increased surface area from the grinding 
seems to speed up the outgassing. 
 
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If you're getting great-tasting coffee and are happy with it, that's all 
that really matters.
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Sharon Allsup
Winston, Georgia
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6) From: Mike McGinness
From: "Bob Howell" 
I would like to hear some comments on treatment of beans immediately after
roasting.
I have read:   Use them right away.   Let them breath overnight.  Store in
an airtight container for 24 hours, and a few more.
It is a little confusing.  I have tried all of the above but I reallly don`t
notice any difference in flavor.
Bob Howell
Nayarit, Mexico
If you don't taste a difference then it doesn't really matter! Lots of
variables. Type of bean, degree of roast, how roasted to said degree roast,
method of brewing, how long they'll be around 'till all consumed... I find
most roasts very drinkable zero rest with improvement in body and complexity
a day or so rested. I vacuum seal in mason jars directly from the roaster.
But then, I'm an extremist:-)
MM;-) aka Kona Krazy miKe mcKoffee
Variable Variac Rockin' Rosto Roasting
Miss Silvia brewin'
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