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Topic: My Alp first impression (9 msgs / 217 lines)
1) From: R.N.Kyle
Yeah, I'm pretty pleased!
That's great Chris, I can't wait till I get mine, I hope tomorrow, but =
most likely Friday.
Rick how's the coffee you roasted in your new Alps?
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC

2) From: R.N.Kyle
Well Santa was nice to you. Im glad you got your Rocky. I know your =
shots will benefit Merry Christmas Mike
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC

3) From: Chris Beck
Of course, I couldn't wait to try out my new Alp that arrived yesterday. 
  First batch was Monkey Blend, my standby.  1st crack at about 14:30 
and stopped the roast at 17:50 with a roaring second crack.  Lifted the 
lid 1/2" once cooling commenced to speed it along, and the beans in the 
cup after the roast cycle were just warm, about like what comes out of 
my Gourmet or poppers.  I don't know what all the hubub is about 
regarding the lame cooling.
Anyway, I had one shot last night (6 hours rest) and it was good, but 
this morning's 3 doubles (yippee!) were just amazing.  It is a much 
smoother, more bittersweet, thicker mouthfeel shot with a great 
lingering aftertaste with none of the harshness or bitterness I've 
always had with hot air roasts.  I've never been able to come close to 
this level of taste no matter what air roast profile or roaster I used. 
  My Pumpers (1400W versions) have the best profile with about 7 minutes 
to first and a 10 minute end-of-roast (full city) level, but even yet, 
the shots aren't as good as the drum roast.
I've also been able to lower the brew temp on Silvia about 4 to 5 
degrees without getting a sour shot considering equal air vs. drum roast 
levels.  Yeah, I'm pretty pleased!
Now to compare the Alp roasts vs. Gonzo's Hottop with the same beans...
Merry Christmas everyone!
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4) From: Mike McGinness
From: "Chris Beck" 
 Now to compare the Alp roasts vs. Gonzo's Hottop with the same
Congrats on the Alp and roast on! But, but, but ROCKY! ROCKY! ROCKY! ROCKY!
(chanted as in the movie) SS Rocky from under the tree to the counter. First
grind(s) report later. (yes, shots already fired!) But now off to my
sister's with Turkey just coming off a 9.5hr cherry wood sauna etc...
MM;-) aka Kona Krazy miKe mcKoffee
Variable Variac Rockin' Rosto Roasting
Miss Silvia brewin' & Rocky grindin'!
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5) From: Rick Farris
Ron asked:
Well, to start with I only got one Alp, not two Alps.  I wish I could have
two, though.  :-)
I'm just now recovering from roasting 9.5# of beans in three days.  19
batches in the Alp and I only really got it tuned in at about batch number
18.  And, batches 18 and 19 went into Xmas gifts, so I didn't get to taste
Plus, my schedule has been all screwed up so I haven't really had an
opportunity to perform the whole coffee-making ritual in the normal
coffee-tasting setting, so I guess I'm saying "I don't know yet." :-)
Not only that, but I smoked the house up so badly that my aged mother has
forbid me to roast anymore while she is home.  She is out most Friday
mornings, though, so about Sunday I should be able to do a real tasting of
my Alp coffee.
I looked at my machine today and you should see all the mung on it.  I
carefully vacuumed it and emptied the chaff collectors after each roast, but
after 19 roasts, there is gunk caked around the doors and baked onto the
reflectors.  I went looking for TSP, but I don't think they have it here in
Arizona.  I checked every cleaning solution at two major grocery stores in
case one of them had TSP as its active ingredient, but each one of them
prominently noted that there were no phosphates in it. I assume TSP stands
for something like "Tri Sodium Phosphate."  I think I'll attack it with a
solution of CleanCaf tomorrow.
-- Rick
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6) From: dewardh
Try Home Depot, paint department.  5 lbs. about $7.  At least here in 
California, anyway.  Around here you find it in any paint or hardware store . . 
.. (but not, typically, in grocery stores . . .).
Ps.  "mung" . . . that's a word I hadn't "heard" for a while  . . .
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7) From: EuropaChris
Try a hardware store for TSP.  You'll likely find only a non-phosphate TSP wannabe, but it still works pretty good.
I've only roasted one batch so far in my Alp, but I plan to wipe down the doors and reflectors after every roast.  The 'mung' is only a oily film after one roast and wipes off easily with a bit of Simple Green.
I also plan to tear down the Alp every 3 to 6 months and REALLY give the works a good cleaning.  I think a lot of the 'failures' are goo-related where stuff just doesn't move like it's supposed to (doors don't close all the way or open properly, etc).  Roasters lead a very hard life, and without proper preventative maintenance, you'll have problems.
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8) From: Garrik

9) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 20:23 12/27/02, Garrik typed:
In my attempt to build a self contained drum roaster, I was surprised to 
discover just how expensive just the component parts can be taken as a 
whole.  Properly aligned moving parts, some very hot, some that can't be, 
some that can't help but be hot.  By the time I am finished, I think the 
final raw price will be over $100 (ok I know it will be) and that is with 
surplus, inexpensive parts. IF it were to go retail, (not that that is a 
plan), the price would double or triple and suddenly the price is over the 
alp and nearing the HotTop.  I understand the HotTop price now.
John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Roasting and Blending by Gestalt
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