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Topic: Coffee makers. (2 msgs / 70 lines)
1) From: Ray Kirkland
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I would like to know what espresso machines you use and what you feel would
be the best for the $ as well as the best period.
I have been roasting now for a few months with a stock poppery 1, a much
modified popcorn pumper, and a coffa Rosta.
No varic yet BUT
My questions are about espresso machines. I have a very nice La Pavoni Lever
machine that I have added a gauge too and have the temp set dead bang and a
Rocky grinder so I am pulling a good cup in general BUT I am wanting a good
semi-auto or auto machine so that I can have constant cups to check the
roasts against.
I know that there are many Silvia fans on this list BUT I was hoping to go
upstream a bit. I have looked at the TEA and Giotto.
as well as the Rancilla S series and the La Pavoni pub V  To afford these
they have to be used.Referbed or badly disfigured. have also found that the
Reneka products are well rated when new and can be bought used for the price
of a Silvia.
I do not mind plumbing in the line but I want a 110 unit.
I would bet that this has been hashed over many times and if so I will be
glad to take my answers off line.
thank you
rayk

2) From: Jim Schulman
Hi Ray,
Machines an E61 style head and a heat exchanger 
plus boiler system for continuous steaming all are 
quite similar on performance. Those designed for 
home use -- smaller boiler, pour over, Ulka vibe 
pump -- mostly cost around $1000 to $1200, so 
looks should be the guiding factor.
The big exception in this class is the Expobar 
Pulsar, a machine with exactly the same specs (and 
performance, I tried one), which is only $750. The 
reason it's cheaper is that it's made in Spain, 
and isn't as pretty as the others. In terms of 
usability, it's missing the boiler pressure guage 
and the p-stat is hard to find and adjust; but it 
does have a hot water tap. I would rate this one 
the definite price/preformance star in this class 
machine.
You can move up to new or used commercial single 
group machine -- the espresso quality will not be 
better -- but you could pull 100s of shots a day. 
The package many people are finding most 
attractive is the Reneka Techno (all the other 
Renekas are also-rans). This runs $1500, very 
inexpensive for a plumbed in rotary pump machine. 
It also features separate brewing and steaming 
boilers and delivers somewhat more precise shot 
temperatures (2F range versus 4F range). 
Currently, there are new rotary pump Mini-Wegas on 
sale in the $1200 range which are also very 
attractive deals.
Jim
On 31 Dec 2002 at 8:14, Ray Kirkland wrote:
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