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Topic: royal coffeemaker (11 msgs / 258 lines)
1) From: Mark Finkle
I am new to home roasting and reading the postings has helped me a lot.  I 
have and love my cona.  I am a bit of a gadget freak and recently came 
across the "royal coffeemaker".  I looks incredible even if it is a bit 
pricey.  Can anyone give me incite as to how good the coffee is? 
Roasting here in Upstate NY--Thanks for the help
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2) From: Mike McGinness
From: "Mark Finkle" 
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I don't own one but have 'drooled' too. They are beautiful works of art. My
understanding is the cup should be like vac pot. Which makes sense, since it
is a form of vac pot!
MM;-) aka Kona Krazy miKe mcKoffee
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3) From: Dave Huddle
Lyle,
I suspect Mark is referring to the Royal Coffee Brewer.
Search google for      royal coffee maker  pays-bas
Or search ebay for     siphon vacuum coffee maker copper brass
I've never seen one in person.   Probably never will.
Dave	Westerville, OH
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4) From: Mark A. Chalkley
Mark,
Check out the CoffeeGeek reviews athttp://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/vacpots/royal. There's also a
review by Mark Prince himself on the site.  I suppose you could read
that one, too, since it's his site. ;>)
I've posted a review there in the consumer reviews section (the above
link), and there are some good ones there, too. ;>)
I can heartily recommend the Royal.  I've been using it as my daily
brewer for about 4 months, though I sometimes also use a Hario or two,
if I've got company and need to make a lot at once. Most folks that
own one use it mostly for "special occasions", I think, but I think
making coffee is always a special occasion.
If you've got any other questions after reading the reviews, let me
know - I'll be glad to tell you what I know.  One addendum I'd like to
make concerning my review, which I'm going to post when I do my
"3-month follow-up":  It's less necessary to "tweak" the royal than I
originally thought.  I still do the things I mentioned in the review,
but it's also pretty easy to control extraction time with the grind,
if you've got a good quality grinder.  I'm using a Zass manual grinder
now and it works great with the Royal.
Mark
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 11:17:28 AM, Mark Finkle wrote:
MF> I am new to home roasting and reading the postings has helped me a lot.  I 
MF> have and love my cona.  I am a bit of a gadget freak and recently came 
MF> across the "royal coffeemaker".  I looks incredible even if it is a bit 
MF> pricey.  Can anyone give me incite as to how good the coffee is? 
MF> Roasting here in Upstate NY--Thanks for the help
MF>
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5) From: TFisher511
I haven't tried the Royal Coffeemaker but there is an extensive article about 
it on coffeegeek.com. Interesting but not worth the $ and effort to me, but 
that is just me. I only own 8 working coffee roasters at present plus a 
couple of poppers so it isn't like I don't just buy toys to see how they 
work.
Terry F
dafi7789 writes:
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6) From: Mike McGinness
From: "Mark A. Chalkley" 
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A lot is said about espresso machines, but 10 CSA points for owning a Royal!
BTW, which model do you have copper, gold or palladium? (5 bonus points if
gold or palladium) Classic or Modern? Also, have you replaced the standard
smooth Bohemian crystal glass with one of the cut crystal? (10 bonus points
if the answer is yes, style counts as you well know:-)
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5 CSA points for sharing your experience.
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25 CSA points for understanding the 'importance' of coffee! (I feel the same
way about using Miss Silvia versus a superauto.)
MM;-) aka Kona Krazy miKe mcKoffee
Variable Variac Rockin' Rosto Roasting
Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin'
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7) From: Owen Davies
Among other comments, Mark A. Chalkley wrote:
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Interesting.  The way it's described, I would have thought the extraction
time was set:  When the water is out of the "bottom," things move and cut
off the flame.  Are you talking about the time it takes the water to head
"south," whatever that means in a horizontal-format brewer, through the
grinds once the heating is over?
Owen Davies
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8) From: Mark A. Chalkley
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 1:32:54 PM, Owen Davies wrote:
OD> Interesting.  The way it's described, I would have thought the
OD> extraction time was set:  When the water is out of the "bottom,"
OD> things move and cut off the flame.  Are you talking about the time
OD> it takes the water to head "south," whatever that means in a
OD> horizontal-format brewer, through the grinds once the heating is
OD> over?
Precisely.  The fineness of the grind controls the rate of flow of the
coffee through the filter back into the pot it started from, i.e. "the
trip south", or right, in this case...
Since extraction continues as long as the water is exposed to the
ground coffee, I'm assuming you can't call extraction over until all
(or at least almost all) of the water/brewed coffee is back in the
pot.
Mark C.
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9) From: Lyle
Hi Mark,
Are you talking about the Royal Max roaster?
Lyle
alylea
roasing in Downstate NY
---------- "Mark Finkle"  writes:
From: "Mark Finkle" 
To: homeroast
Subject: +royal coffeemaker
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:17:28 -0600
I am new to home roasting and reading the postings has helped me a lot.  I 
have and love my cona.  I am a bit of a gadget freak and recently came 
across the "royal coffeemaker".  I looks incredible even if it is a bit 
pricey.  Can anyone give me incite as to how good the coffee is? 
Roasting here in Upstate NY--Thanks for the help
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10) From: Mark A. Chalkley
Mike,
Uhh, yeah, I guess owning a Royal and being a snob (of some sort, at
least) do go hand-in-hand...
Shucks, no bonus points for me:  I own the copper model (Classic
"Versailles"), with the standard glass.  But I'm working on a
custom-machined brass counterweight that will rest on the siphon tube
to perfectly balance the empty water pot, both weight-wise and
side-to-side (which will also prolong extraction a bit, allowing me to
use a bit coarser grind for less sediment). And a solid walnut base to
replace the oak one because I think the walnut will contrast better
with the copper.  As you said "style counts".  (And I'll be able to
customize the thickness, so I won't need cork coasters under the glass
and burner.) Do they count toward bonus points?
Hey, 40 CSA points in one post - cool!  Thanks!!!  I'm not going to
tell you what kind of espresso maker I have - I might lose them all
again...  (But I'll tell you this much:  It was given to me and I've
only used it twice.  I'm in the market for a real one - one of these
days.)
Mark C.
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 1:14:26 PM, Mike McGinness wrote:
MM> From: "Mark A. Chalkley" 
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MM> A lot is said about espresso machines, but 10 CSA points for owning a Royal!
MM> BTW, which model do you have copper, gold or palladium? (5 bonus points if
MM> gold or palladium) Classic or Modern? Also, have you replaced the standard
MM> smooth Bohemian crystal glass with one of the cut crystal? (10 bonus points
MM> if the answer is yes, style counts as you well know:-)
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MM> 5 CSA points for sharing your experience.
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MM> 25 CSA points for understanding the 'importance' of coffee! (I feel the same
MM> way about using Miss Silvia versus a superauto.)
MM> MM;-) aka Kona Krazy miKe mcKoffee
MM> Variable Variac Rockin' Rosto Roasting
MM> Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin'
MM>
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11) From: Ben Treichel
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:10:15 -0800 (PST), "Mike McGinness" wrote:
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My sentments exactly! Better coffee? Still got a lot of equipment to get before
something like that. At last count my Rocky savimgs account was out to $135.
Going to be a few months more.
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