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Topic: robobeans etc. (10 msgs / 221 lines)
1) From: Kai-La-Sha
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Now, THAT'S FUNNY!  Brewtooth indeed!  This is not meant as criticism,
but you guys need a feminine perspective introduced once in a while.
This latest flight of technofancy has convinced me that this list is a
truly testosterone saturated patriarchy!  Women are more interested in
the mystique, the art, the poetry of really good coffee, and the
simplification of the process of producing it rather than the
complication and ornamentation of the process.
Ed, I really love your adaptation of the Michelangelo Sistine ceiling!
Wit, elegance, and poetry!  
In answer to the fellow who suggested a hurricane lamp chimney for the
FR+, I really want the retarding effect of the metal "cooling tower" as
it slows the roast to a total of about 12 to 15 minutes instead of the 5
or 6 minutes the FR usually takes to get to 2nd crack.  I don't lose any
beans out the top - well, an occasional deformed "flier" might go
sailing, - just chaff.  Now I just need to disconnect the timer and
change it to an off/on switch.
Regards, Cathy http://www.lhasa-apso.org"In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man- 
 if you want anything done, ask a woman." 
  -Margaret Thatcher-
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2) From: Ben Treichel
Kai-La-Sha wrote:
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Wow! Talk about rabid strerotyping. I've know male and female engineers 
that consider this discussion "Wit, elegance, and poetry!"
Ben ;-)
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3) From: dewardh
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coffee
Yep . . . that's why they're attracted to the brightly colored cans and bags 
with the pictures on them . . .
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4) From: Tom & Maria
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Now Cathy,  I don't think that either a technical or an intuitive 
approach necessarily invokes gender. I know a good sampling of women 
roasters, pro and homeroasters, who have no interest in mystique, art 
and poetry of the craft and the less-vocal majority of people are 
roasting intuitively, without checking their genetalia first.  I know 
exactly what you mean about technofancy and I also totally understand 
why so many people on the list are tweaking the roasters or building 
their own: this group's demand for improvements in home roasting 
equipment have not been met by the products out there. I think if 
everyone on the list was blessed with a good drum roaster, a Diedrich 
or a Probat, there would be a lot more discussion about roasting with 
your senses. I do think these are the best roasting tools you have. 
No PID or probe is as good as your eyes, ears and nose. No datalogger 
output is as good as your memory and experience. But we all can't 
have a shop roaster in our house so...
Tom
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6) From: Ben Treichel
Tom & Maria wrote:
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I absolutely agree! As one of the people building a micro controller for 
roast profiling, I know with absolute certainty that the old computer 
saying of garbage in, garbage out applies. However, if I decide that 
raising the the temp, by 10 degrees at a specific time, gets me a better 
roast, I don't want to have to achieve what I know is possible only 1 
out of 5 times because the room is cold, or ???
Ben
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7) From: Tom & Maria
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I agree completely. DIY is the way to go. And for those who don't 
want to or can't, I wish there was a garage business out there that 
would build a home roaster out of a gas grill and what not to sell. 
But I am sure the final costs and the legal matters would make it 
nearly impossible. My hope has always been that someone would build 
drum units that you could use in a BBQ or shrouded in metal and 
placed on any heat source-an indoor gas stove with venting or a 
portable gas or propane stove. There was a guy offering a stainless 
steel key-wound drum unit a couple years ago, but it doesnt seem to 
have materialized.
Tom
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8) From: Andrew Thomas
Cathy wrote (among other things):
....This latest flight of technofancy has convinced me that this list is a truly testosterone saturated patriarchy!  Women are more interested in
the mystique, the art, the poetry of really good coffee, and the
simplification of the process of producing it rather than the
complication and ornamentation of the process....
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I'm with you, Cathy. (So...I hope this doesn't mean I need hormone therapy....)
Andy
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9) From: Steve Wall
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 07:47 AM, Kai-La-Sha wrote:
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Well, I do think the robobean concept is going a bit off the deep
end.  Does a Diedrich have some magic technology for measuring
bean internals?  I would assume their temperature probe is just
sampling external temps somewhere in the bean mass.  This is all
we really need to shoot for.
But if someone wants to pursue the robobean idea, may I suggest
RFID tags?  Radio Freq. ID tags with temperature sensors exist,
although the applications I've heard about have all been for
measuring temperatures in the ambient to cold range, not oven
temps.  But if there is an oven safe RFID tag, that would be
my choice for a robobean.
Steve Wall=
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10) From: Dan Bollinger
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Well, I do think the robobean concept is going a bit off the deep
end.
Detractors just don't appreciate the joy of the creative spirit and the
cooperative nature of brain storming.    Dan, who is on hormone
therapy.  LOL!
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