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Topic: DeCaf Grind Question (8 msgs / 139 lines)
1) From: Ben Treichel
Has anybody seen the need to coarsen the grind on their de-caf to avoid 
pulling a long shot?
I've convinced myself that it is necessary. I can get repeatable results 
with any non-decaf with one grind setting. However this same setting 
gives me only about 1oz in 26 seconds.
Ben
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2) From: Jim Schulman
On 29 Jan 2003 at 11:13, Ben Treichel wrote:
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Strange, for me it's the exact opposite, I always 
go two mazzer notches finer for my decaf 
(equivalent of about 3 - 4 clicks on a Rocky)
Jim Schulman
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3) From: John Abbott
I'm glad you stepped in Jim, I too grind finer for decaf and I wondered if I
was going against the norm.  I run my Solis grinder down to the second notch
when pulling decaf espresso - which isn't all that often.
John

4) From: Jason Molinari
Yes, me too. I had to go quite a bit finer on my rocky..if i remember its 3-4 clicks. I though it was odd..but i guess thats just the way things work out.
jason
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5) From: Jeffrey A. Bertoia
It probably has more to do with roast levels than caf vs decaf.
I have always found it difficult to judge the same roast level on caf
and decaf since they behave so differently in the roaster.
jeff
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6) From: Ben Treichel
Okay, so how does roast level effect the equation?
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7) From: Jeffrey A. Bertoia
I have found that for espressso the darker I roast the coarser I grind.
It may have to do with more dust being generated from darker roasts.
Since I don't grind decaf and caf in the same grinder I can't give you a
real comparison but since Jason and Jim both notice differences albiet
contradictory to yours I bet that's it.
jeff
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8) From: Lee XOC
< On Behalf Of Jeffrey A.Bertoia
< Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:42 PM
<
< It probably has more to do with roast levels than caf vs decaf.
<
< I have always found it difficult to judge the same roast level on caf
< and decaf since they behave so differently in the roaster.
<
< jeff
<
< Ben Treichel wrote:
<
< > Has anybody seen the need to coarsen the grind on their de-caf to
< > avoid pulling a long shot?
< >
< > I've convinced myself that it is necessary. I can get repeatable
< > results with any non-decaf with one grind setting. However
< this same
< > setting gives me only about 1oz in 26 seconds.
This is very true.  With decaf I've found that 1st and 2nd cracks tend
to run together, or sometimes the "first crack" is equivalent to 2nd
crack ... if that makes any sense.
Also, I've found that the approach to roasting decaf seems to be
dependent upon how soon thereafter the coffee will be brewed.  In the
usual case where I won't begin to consume the coffee until the next day
or so, I move the roaster to the cooling cycle just after (or very soon
after) the first crack begins.  But I've also found that I can make an
excellent (and I mean *excellent*) cup right away by roasting a bit
deeper into first crack ... sort of where full city would be in normal
coffee.  However, decaf roasted this long tends to get nasty after 24
hours in my experience.
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