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1) From: Kai-La-Sha
From: "Steven Van Dyke" 
To: 
Subject: Re: +Are We Snobs?
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:38:40 -0600
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If we can come up with a good logo I can add CSA shirts and such to the
little CafePress store I set up -http://www.cafeshops.com/csa1has some
cups and such.
Enjoy!
Steve :->
I think Ed's Sistine Ceiling (God handing Adam a cup of coffee) is the best idea for a logo.  It might bear the text, "LET THERE BE COFFEE!".  Maybe too intellectual
for a tee shirt, but after all is is a SNOB tee shirt you are proposing!
Cathy
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2) From: Ben Treichel
Kai-La-Sha wrote:
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I agree, I just think we will have to bring the image down to just the 
hands for the button.
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3) From: Oaxaca Charlie
--- Kai-La-Sha  wrote:
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 I agree with using that image if possible. Maybe different
text.
"AND IT WAS GREAT"
Charlie
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4) From: Ben Treichel
Or both, Top & Bottom.
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5) From: Oaxaca Charlie
 Perfect.
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6) From: Steven Van Dyke
Cathy,
It would be good but it's Ed's, not mine.  If I ever get some of that time I
have on back-order I've got an idea for one that ought to reproduce well.
Enjoy!
Steve :->
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7) From: R.N.Kyle
Me to Charlie, I like T-Shirts
Ron Kyle
Anderson SC
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8) From: Sharon Allsup
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Would it scale down to a 3" image?  You might have to do with just 
the classic recognizable outlines of the characters for clarity.  I can 
go up to 3.5" and 6" but would want some pre-paid orders since 
dies that size are several hundred and a thousand bucks, 
respectively.
Am not happy with the centering and lettering on the first set of 
buttons made last week.  Now that this horrible week of midterms 
and training is over I'm going to just play around over the weekend 
and see if they can be made to look good.  Getting lettering looking 
good when it's arched is tricky (M$'s wordart stuff is not really up to 
the task).
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9) From: Angelo
Although the whole image is interesting, I do think that just the 
hands(arms?) is enough. Most people, I think, would recognize just the 
hands, and if they don't, they are not snobby enough...:-) The hands-only 
version would place more of a accent on the coffee (shape of the cup is 
esthetically important here). Maybe the cup could have the CSA logo on 
it..We do have a CSA logo, don't we??
BTW, do we have to contact Michelangelo's estate for permission??
A.
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10) From: Oaxaca Charlie
 I don't care much for buttons, but I'd order a few t-shirts 
Charlie
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11) From: Dan Bollinger
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The mention of size reminds me.  fyi: A good logo work as small as a postage
stamp and as large as a billboard.   Dan
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12) From: John Abbott
Think about how it looks on a coffee cup!!  I think there will be more used
there than on shirts - maybe ;0)

13) From: Ed Needham
Hi all,
I'm sort of half hearted about buttons and t-shirts and logo type stuff.  How
many of us wear buttons or logo t-shirts?  I bought one of the alt.coffee
t-shirts, and wear it occasionally, but I'm definitely not a button wearing
guy and am not particularly fond of advertising-type clothing.  It is cool to
talk about, and really cool when it comes in the mail and is looked at and
shown around for the first time, but then the button goes in the junk bowl on
the dresser, and eventually finds it's way into a yard sale box somewhere.
I think the 'God shot' Sistine Chapel pic might look good on a button, but
would probably 'muddy up' and never be noticed for what it is on a coffee
mug.  I think it would not do well at all on a t-shirt.
Someone said a logo needs to be simple and clearly evident what it is at any
scale.  I 100% agree.  Simple graphics, bold colors and easy readability,
with a very simple message, if any message at all.
A few choice words with a simple graphic would be the best in my opinion.
Ed Needham
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14) From: Oaxaca Charlie
 You're probably right, Ed. Sigh... But a nice poster would be
perfect in my office. I'd even frame it.
Charlie
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15) From: Ed Needham
Maybe if it said www.homeroaster.com on the bottom .
Ed Needham
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16) From: Ben Treichel
I'm sorry but I disagree.  You can go for just the hands for a button, 
and the full image for mugs and T's.
I think that the 'God Shot' captures the essence of what were talking about.
I want it all! The button, the T, and the mug! :-)
Oaxaca Charlie wrote:
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17) From: Oaxaca Charlie
 And ball caps too, eh? Whether it's CSA, homeroaster.com or
both
Charlie
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18) From: Steven Van Dyke
Hey Ed,
If you want a poster send me the graphic just the way you want it and I'll
add it.  There are 11x17 and 16x20 versions (well, and a 20x35 (I think)).http://www.cafeshops.com/csa1<- the little shop where I have some cups &
such while I wait for time to do the logo.
Enjoy!
Steve :->
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http://www.cafeshops.com/stevespics<- my little store of Impressionist &
Special Events Photography stuff)

19) From: Steven Van Dyke
If we come up with a suitable logo I'll set it up.  As I've mentioned before
I'm already set up with CafePress (they do print-on-demand merchandise).
All the prices will be $1 over the CafePress price.  There are currently 57
products in the CafePress line so we can have ball caps, black ball caps,
camisoles, shirts, kid's shirts, tile coasters, cups, a lunchbox, underwear
(boxers, thongs, panties, and a camisole), posters, calendars, all kinds of
stuff.
Enjoy!
Steve :->
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http://www.cafeshops.com/stevespics<- my little store of Impressionist &
Special Events Photography stuff)

20) From: Ed Needham
Let's go for it.  I'll give permission to use the image on a limited basis,
for cups, posters, buttons, and t-shirts for those of us on this homeroast
list.  I really don't want to use the image for public purposes unless it is
tied to my website.  It has become an identifier for almost all my web pages.
Stephen, I'll send you a TIFF image.  It is the highest resolution image I
have of that pic, and a standard format that graphics professionals use.  I'm
not sure it'll blow up much past 10" in length, without loss of quality.
Ed Needham
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21) From: Myron Joshua
If going for the Sisitine Chapel idea-consider that the ceiling has been
renovated and colors are now much brighter.
Using the image to make labels for one-way valved bags would be nice.
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22) From: John Abbott
Ed, are you claiming the artwork??  The Stamford University Coffee Shop has
a very close copy on its wall.

23) From: Angelo
To whoever does the logo on the coffee cup,
Pleeeze, either put the logo on both sides of the cup, or at least put it 
on the side facing AWAY from a right-handed drinker. I collect espresso 
cups with logos and it seems silly that the logo is facing the drinker... I 
want the world to see the logo, but I refuse to drink left-handed. :-)
Ciao,
Angelo (picky Virgo)
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24) From: Michael Horowitz
Ed - I'd like to try it as wallpaper for a while. Do you have a full screen
image i.e including the bottom half? - Mike
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25) From: Sharon Allsup
On 1 Feb 2003, at 17:43, Michael Horowitz wrote:
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here's a thought ... how about using the bottom half space to print 
a cute slogan, like "Let There Be Coffee" or "The First God Shot" or 
so on?
I'd love getting that kind of thing wrapped around a mug, with the 
text underneath.
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26) From: Ed Needham
Already using it for coffee labels.
It's become such a big part of my homeroaster web site and my tiny roasted
coffee operation that I am a bit reluctant to share it, but for the good of
the CSA, I'm just a softie.
Ed Needham
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27) From: Ed Needham
I am definitely claiming the artwork, but I guess it doesn't surprise me that
someone else may have done a similar thing.  It's a natural for putting
something in the hands.  I have not seen another image like it though.  I'd
be curious to see someone elses version.  I wonder if it is pictured on the
net somewhere?
Ed Needham
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28) From: Oaxaca Charlie
--- Ed Needham  wrote:
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 I figured you were probably using it as a startup logo for your
new roasting biz. We all promise not to use it for any business
of ours-right folks?
Charlie
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29) From: Ed Needham
No...I really didn't want the full image when I made it.  As beautiful as the
human male sex organs are, I really didn't want to see them on almost every
page of my website.  What you see on my web page is it.  I have a .TIF
version of it, but the resolution does not make it look any different.  Just
a bigger file.
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30) From: jim gundlach
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 09:47 PM, Oaxaca Charlie wrote:
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Right.
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32) From: Sharon Allsup
On 1 Feb 2003, at 22:47, Ed Needham wrote:
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I've seen (and done) versions of it with stuff in the hands, like a 
drum major's sceptor, a conductor's baton, a floppy disk, a teacup 
(which is really, really similar to your coffee cup).  We got a bit silly 
with that type of imagery back in college music dept. :)
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33) From: Tony McDonald
Ohh.... Uhhh... right.... (I wonder if I still have time to cancel my
registration for
godshot.biz
;-)
Please, don't be concerned.... of course I'm kidding.
Tony the Alpenrost'n newbie

34) From: Myron Joshua
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Good idea Angelo. That way the logo will show through the window of my
cupboard when i hang it on a hook.
There is a commercial for Nestles  Nescafe in Israel showing an
Afro-American doing some Rap singing. The key line is "WAKE UP MAN!"
How's that for a line to use under the logo?
Myron
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35) From: Barry Jarrett
At 09:55 AM 2/1/03 -0600, you wrote:
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remember to lighten the image up a bit as their printing process can make
things dark.  the first run of Angry Bunny mugs were a bit on the dark side.
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36) From: jim gundlach
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 09:47 PM, Oaxaca Charlie wrote:
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Right.
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37) From: jim gundlach
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 09:47 PM, Oaxaca Charlie wrote:
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Right.
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38) From: John Abbott
Ed, I looked for it and couldn't find it.  I have a grand-nephew who attends
and he will get a digital for us. In their version it is a mug.

39) From: John Abbott
umm - that would be a (ugh - yuk) plastic cup.  There are countless mug
printing shops on-line, several offer multiple shapes and little or no set
up cost to print on ceramic cups.  I'm the owner of a set of "Granddad" cups
with my six grandkids on them.

40) From: Michael Horowitz
You know - I wouldn't be suprised to find that craft shops stock
inner-outer-wall (insulated) cups/mugs, and one could take the picture and
insert it in the airgap, then (somehow) reseal the cup. - Mike
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41) From: Angelo
I've think it might be fun to have a "great art" coffee campaign where we 
go through familiar art, finding pictures where something is being handed 
from one person to another. Replace said object with a coffee cup with the 
CSA logo. I suggest an espresso cup so that it doesn't get confused with a 
tea cup.
A.
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42) From: John Abbott
Angelo,
Where would we submit this art, and who would judge?  I would caution folks
to make sure that the altered art was in the public domain. One could find
themselves in trouble if you modified publish but privately held art.
And one last question, which shape espresso cup?

43) From: Andrew Thomas
"Sharon Allsup" 
On 1 Feb 2003, at 22:47, Ed Needham wrote:
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I've seen (and done) versions of it with stuff in the hands, like a 
drum major's sceptor, a conductor's baton, a floppy disk, a teacup 
(which is really, really similar to your coffee cup).  We got a bit silly with that type of imagery back in college music dept. :)
When I was a kid I had a book called Art Afterpieces -- repros of old paintings, but altered in a humorous way. (We were high-class.) One of them was the painting in question, with Adam holding a cigarette and God holding a lighter.
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44) From: Ed Needham
heheheh
Ed Needham
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45) From: Ed Needham
I really never thought it was an original idea.  It's such a powerful
painting, and it lends itself to all us nuts who think life and death
revolves around our coffee passion.  You know it does, and I know it does,
but if we let others know, they'll think we're crazy.
As to the coffeehouse mural, I couldn't find it on the web either, but I
believe you.  I had just never seen it before and after Myron mentioned the
pairing of the two, with the magic of computer digital darkroom software, and
an evening of my time...voila!
Ed Needham
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