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Topic: warmup time of Silvia? (11 msgs / 180 lines)
1) From: Prabhakar Ragde
Just a question, not like I'm thinking of moving from my Pavoni Pro or
anything... but how long does it take to warm this machine up from an
overnight cold state to where it can make a decent shot? (I have one
double shot a day, first thing in the morning.) 
--PR, who just booked for two weeks in Paris in July, even though the
  coffee is awful there
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2) From: Mike McGinness
45min to an hour for everything including pf to be up to temp. You can
*cheat* though.
MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
Frankenformer Rosto Roasting
Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin'

3) From: Prabhakar Ragde
Mike McGinness wrote:
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What constitutes "cheating", and what sort of compromises does it
entail? 45-60 minutes would mean a serious lifestyle change (anything
that affects the coffee ritual is serious). --PR
(PS Hey, Ben, would you consider turning off HTML mail when you're
sending? Those of us getting the digest get huge chunks of raw HTML
text every time you post. Thanks for your consideration.)
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4) From: Ben Treichel
Prabhakar Ragde wrote:
Ok, we'll see how its works.
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5) From: John Abbott
Prabhakar,
You could add a small wall timer and solve most of this problem.  I put it
off for a long time after getting the Solis Automatic because it is ready in
just a few minutes. But I kept forgetting to turn it OFF at night. So now
its on a timer and shuts off at 1 a.m. and turns back on at 7 a.m.
Occasionally (like today) I beat the timer awake, and just press a button
and its on.
John - who is either very lazy or very inventive :O)

6) From: Mike McGinness
See Mark's (Coffeekid/coffeegeek) published cheat. http://www.coffeekid.com/archived/rancilio/cheatsilviaAlso google search alt.coffee for all kinds of discussions.
Can also simple use a grounded timer to have her ready when you get up. 
MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
Frankenformer Rosto Roasting
Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin'

7) From: Mike Gallant
	I'll second John's motion for a timer. I use an old block heater timer 
to turn Silvia on an hour before my usual wake up time and she's ready 
to go when I get up (it's the only use I can find for the timer since 
moving from Ontario to California ;)
	I believe the cheating refers to running a few blank shots through the 
portafilter to warm things up more quickly. I don't use that technique 
since I use the timer, but it should allow you to get Silvia up to a 
usable state in 5 or 10 minutes.
-mike
--
Mike Gallant
pischke
On Thursday, Feb 20, 2003, at 07:12 US/Pacific, John Abbott wrote:
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8) From: Seth Goodman
At 09:45 PM 2/19/03 -0500, Prabhakar Ragde wrote:
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Mark Prince has a "Cheating Miss Silvia" webpage at 
where he does a complete brew session,  from "switch on" to cleanup, in 
under eight minutes.
Seth Goodman
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9) From: Mark
I give it a minimum of 30 minutes, usually closer to an hour. Easy enough to
do, since I have it on a timer set to turn on before I get up. I'm not sure
I've ever tried it with less time than that, so I don't know what the
absolute minimum would be, but there is a lot of metal to heat up, so it's
best to give it plenty of time.
Mark
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10) From: Prabhakar Ragde
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That is a clever idea. What is the at-rest power consumption of the
Silvia (he says, living in a recently deregulated energy market where
prices shot through the roof until the deregulating government, facing
reelection, opted to freeze electricity prices, but they will go up
again after the elction...)? 
--PR, who had great difficulty with the last roast in his Hearthware
  Precision, because it was so cold that a minute's buildup of heat
  didn't suffice to push out the cold air that had accumulated on top
  of the fireplace damper, and the result was cold air flowing into
  the house carrying not so unpleasant but rather persistent coffee
  roasting smells...
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11) From: Prabhakar Ragde
Thanks all for the pointers to Mark's cheat-Silvia page on
coffeekid. I should have known he'd have figured something like this
out. I'm not convinced I can do all this prior to my first shot of the
morning, but it does remove any doubt I have about making this machine
fit into my environment and expectations. --PR
(PS Yes, I could try to Google alt.coffee, but part of what I treasure
about this list is its high signal-to-noise ratio, which one can't say
of newsgroups...)
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