Just a question, not like I'm thinking of moving from my Pavoni Pro or anything... but how long does it take to warm this machine up from an overnight cold state to where it can make a decent shot? (I have one double shot a day, first thing in the morning.) --PR, who just booked for two weeks in Paris in July, even though the coffee is awful there homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
45min to an hour for everything including pf to be up to temp. You can *cheat* though. MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee Frankenformer Rosto Roasting Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin'
Mike McGinness wrote: <Snip> What constitutes "cheating", and what sort of compromises does it entail? 45-60 minutes would mean a serious lifestyle change (anything that affects the coffee ritual is serious). --PR (PS Hey, Ben, would you consider turning off HTML mail when you're sending? Those of us getting the digest get huge chunks of raw HTML text every time you post. Thanks for your consideration.) homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Prabhakar Ragde wrote: Ok, we'll see how its works. <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Prabhakar, You could add a small wall timer and solve most of this problem. I put it off for a long time after getting the Solis Automatic because it is ready in just a few minutes. But I kept forgetting to turn it OFF at night. So now its on a timer and shuts off at 1 a.m. and turns back on at 7 a.m. Occasionally (like today) I beat the timer awake, and just press a button and its on. John - who is either very lazy or very inventive :O)
See Mark's (Coffeekid/coffeegeek) published cheat. http://www.coffeekid.com/archived/rancilio/cheatsilviaAlso google search alt.coffee for all kinds of discussions. Can also simple use a grounded timer to have her ready when you get up. MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee Frankenformer Rosto Roasting Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin'
I'll second John's motion for a timer. I use an old block heater timer to turn Silvia on an hour before my usual wake up time and she's ready to go when I get up (it's the only use I can find for the timer since moving from Ontario to California ;) I believe the cheating refers to running a few blank shots through the portafilter to warm things up more quickly. I don't use that technique since I use the timer, but it should allow you to get Silvia up to a usable state in 5 or 10 minutes. -mike -- Mike Gallant pischke On Thursday, Feb 20, 2003, at 07:12 US/Pacific, John Abbott wrote: <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
At 09:45 PM 2/19/03 -0500, Prabhakar Ragde wrote: <Snip> Mark Prince has a "Cheating Miss Silvia" webpage at where he does a complete brew session, from "switch on" to cleanup, in under eight minutes. Seth Goodman homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
I give it a minimum of 30 minutes, usually closer to an hour. Easy enough to do, since I have it on a timer set to turn on before I get up. I'm not sure I've ever tried it with less time than that, so I don't know what the absolute minimum would be, but there is a lot of metal to heat up, so it's best to give it plenty of time. Mark <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
<Snip> That is a clever idea. What is the at-rest power consumption of the Silvia (he says, living in a recently deregulated energy market where prices shot through the roof until the deregulating government, facing reelection, opted to freeze electricity prices, but they will go up again after the elction...)? --PR, who had great difficulty with the last roast in his Hearthware Precision, because it was so cold that a minute's buildup of heat didn't suffice to push out the cold air that had accumulated on top of the fireplace damper, and the result was cold air flowing into the house carrying not so unpleasant but rather persistent coffee roasting smells... homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Thanks all for the pointers to Mark's cheat-Silvia page on coffeekid. I should have known he'd have figured something like this out. I'm not convinced I can do all this prior to my first shot of the morning, but it does remove any doubt I have about making this machine fit into my environment and expectations. --PR (PS Yes, I could try to Google alt.coffee, but part of what I treasure about this list is its high signal-to-noise ratio, which one can't say of newsgroups...) homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast