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Topic: WB I (10 msgs / 261 lines)
1) From: Ben Treichel
I Scored a WB I today for $2 @ ST. Vinny's. Scrubbed her down to like 
new, switched posts on the fan so that its no longer switched, and 
plugged her into a variac with 225 gr of green. Not a problem; decent 
motion. I have a 1/2 lb air roaster that cost me $2. I'll tear her apart 
some other day and mod her to put the heater on a separate circuit, and 
I know it will work just fine.
FYI, Lowes has a turkey fryer thermo (foot long) for less than $7.
Ben
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2) From: Chris Beck
Congrats!  Nice score.  I've collected a half dozen WB1's and almost as 
many 'original' Popcorn Pumpers, which I actually like more.  Two roasts 
in the Pumper gets me more coffee than a roast in my Alp in about the 
same time.  However, for espresso, I find air roasts just aren't as full 
in flavor.
HOWEVER, I've just tried experimenting with the 'coast' trick.  I did 
two roasts last night on some Brazil and Guat where I killed the power 
just as 2nd crack started, and let it develop into a bit of a rolling 
2nd before switching just the fan back on to cool the roast (using my 
modded PII).  I pulled some cafe crema shots with the beans, as well as 
straight shots in the Silvia, and find a nice smoothness and body that 
is usually not there with air roasts.  Interesting!  I'll have to try 
this with my various espresso blends and see what I get.
Chris
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3) From: floyd burton
Ben-recall the temp range on that thermo-THANKS-Oh Menards has a smoker
thermo with 500F temp-screw in but only 2" long for $20.  Looks
substantial-asian made.

4) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 14:07 2/22/2003, Ben Treichel typed:
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Your WBI can roast 8oz of beans.  Really? :-O  !  With mods, mine only does 
about 150 g.
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5) From: Ben Treichel
Yeah up to 550, maybe a bit more. If you all don't have a lowes close I 
suppose I can run by.
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6) From: Ben Treichel
Yep, it has a 120 volt fan motor, so I just drive it up to around ~130 
and I get good bean movement. I imagine its just like miKes rosoto @ 1/2 
lb. Now I didn't put heat to it, but from what I've seen with upping my 
FR +, etc, if I just ease in the heat (about 4 mins to 375) its not a 
problem. FYI, I just roasted 6 oz with my WB II. My Dad loved it for his 
b'day; along with some golf equip.
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7) From: AlChemist John
That is rather odd.  WBI's are very standardized.  Strange that mine does 
so much less than another.   I may keep my eye out for another and see if 
mine just has low pressure or something.
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....After reading your post again, I do see that that was without the heater 
coil on.  I can get a lot more movement without the heater on but the draw 
from the coils is not insignificant.  Have you actually roasted 225g in it yet?
Sometime around 19:08 2/22/2003, Ben Treichel typed:
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8) From: Ben Treichel
AlChemist John wrote:
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Maybe today. However I always put my heater and fan on separate 
circuits, normally through a variac or wall wart. With this one, I'll be 
using dual variac's. One to turn the heater wattage down, and one to 
initially increase the voltage to the fan. As the roast goes on the 
voltage on both (normally) goes down. Also I do see slight additional 
movement with the heater on. I'm guessing that this is due to the 
expansion of the air being heated from room to 4XX F.
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9) From: R.N.Kyle
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Yes please
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10) From: Ben Treichel
Now I have raosted with it. I did a few mod's i wanted to try. I have 
removed the upper plastic chamber (the chamber is two part - metal 
bottom, plastic extender) and placed a hurricane lamp in its place. A 3" 
lamp is a perfect replacement. I had wanted to see what would happen it 
the bean motion with the lamp belly. Not really much effect it seems. 
The 1/2 lb of green came right up to the flare out of the belly of  the 
lamp glass.
The other reason is that I like to be able to see the roast, and this
way I can see ~40% to start, and ~65% at the end.  I just cranked the
voltage on the fan variac to full (130 on the dial) and never changed
it. I think that was because of the lamp; the air slows when it hits
the expansion. The roast was fairly normal, I just have to get use to
the roaster.
If you want to see pictures, ask.
Ben
AlChemist John wrote:
 > That is rather odd.  WBI's are very standardized.  Strange that mine
 > does so much less than another.   I may keep my eye out for another
 > and see if mine just has low pressure or something.
 > .
 > .
 > .
 > ...After reading your post again, I do see that that was without the
 > heater coil on.  I can get a lot more movement without the heater on
 > but the draw from the coils is not insignificant.  Have you actually
 > roasted 225g in it yet?
 >
 >
 > Sometime around 19:08 2/22/2003, Ben Treichel typed:
 >
 >> Yep, it has a 120 volt fan motor, so I just drive it up to around
 >> ~130 and I get good bean movement. I imagine its just like miKes
 >> rosoto @ 1/2 lb. Now I didn't put heat to it, but from what I've seen
 >> with upping my FR +, etc, if I just ease in the heat (about 4 mins to
 >> 375) its not a problem. FYI, I just roasted 6 oz with my WB II. My
 >> Dad loved it for his b'day; along with some golf equip.
 >>
 >> AlChemist John wrote:
 >>
 >>> Sometime around 14:07 2/22/2003, Ben Treichel typed:
 >>>
 >>>> I Scored a WB I today for $2 @ ST. Vinny's. Scrubbed her down to
 >>>> like new, switched posts on the fan so that its no longer switched,
 >>>> and plugged her into a variac with 225 gr of green. Not a problem;
 >>>> decent motion. I have a 1/2 lb air roaster that cost me $2. I'll
 >>>> tear her apart some other day and mod her to put the heater on a
 >>>> separate circuit, and I know it will work just fine.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Your WBI can roast 8oz of beans.  Really? :-O  !  With mods, mine
 >>> only does about 150 g.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> --
 >>> John Nanci 
 >>> AlChemist at large
 >>> Roasting and Blending by Gestalt
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
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 >>>http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast >>
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 > --
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 >
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