Not too different from Coffeenut and the others who responded to this thread - I brush the loose chaff and other rubbish into the chaff tray, which I empty, then brush out anything that managed to get beneath it. I remove the vent and brush it out completely, then poke my brush into the fan chamber and pull out any loose chaff I can reach in there. Every so often, I swab the doors and any other obviously gunked-up places with isopropyl, and put the chaff tray, drum, bean catcher, and vent into the dishwasher. The plastic exterior doesn't much like alcohol, I find - though it does need to be cleaned, especially above the vent. So I use a little cleaning solution on a paper towel. I also clean the FreshRoast when I'm using it - brushing out everything I can reach (most certainly including the top screen of the chaff collector!) - and have run the roasting jar and other movable parts in the top tray of the dishwasher. From Tom's description, it almost sounds as if some people just use roasters without cleaning them at all - I don't have any buildup in the top of the FR, even though I don't spend much time cleaning, either... Kathleen
Does anyone who has had an Alp for quite awhile know for sure if it needs to be thoroughly cleaned? I am interested in anyone who has talked to Swissmar or another reputable source and has gotten the truth on this one. I haven't seen anything about cleaning, other than the 4 components which are all dishwasher safe. If it does require cleaning, what do you use and how often? Let me know. Thanks. Frank from Texas
Frank, The short answer is "yes" and it comes right from the guy who invented the product. If you head over to the archive (below) and put "Alp clean" in the search field, you'll see a fair amount of discussion on this topic.http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/index.htmCoffenut :^) <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
The buildup needs to be wiped off with a damp cloth. Not wet. Be prepared to scrub a little on some areas and change/rinse clothes often. Pay close attention to the flapper doors - especially their edges. If they get too gooped up they can stick closed. As with all things electrical and mechanical, apply a judicial amount of common sense - no dripping water, avoid abrasives like Comet and the like, don't spray the machine down or dunk it. Have fun... Mike aryaniam wrote: <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Yes, it does. Urn cleaner in HOT water cuts thru most of the buildup as if it were room temperature butter. Following up with alcohol removes the urn cleaner film. HTH, John aryaniam wrote: <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Last week I mentioned using Shaklee At-Ease Heavy-Duty Cleaner on my Alp reflector and doors, and Marius Johnston mentioned using 409 spritzed on a paper towel. So I tried them both. Seems to me the 409 is just as good, easier to buy, and probably a lot less expensive. (I had initially used the Shaklee stuff because it was in sight, in the kitchen; the 409 was out of sight, in the basement.) I'm not worried about residue from 409. Like Marius, I finish cleaning with a water-dampended paper towel, then polish with a dry dish towel. Still shiny as new after 60+ roasts. Dave Westerville, OH were the snow is NEARLY all gone! homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Hi Dave, Thanks for the feed back Marius Johnston Amador County, CA Dave Huddle wrote: <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Hi all, this is my first post to this site and I am looking forward to = many more in the future. I purchased a Alp in the beginning of March and = have roasted quite a few pounds of green beans, however I noticed a hazy = film developing on the mirror like surfaces especially on the lid. Is = there a product to cut thru this hard to remove haze. Any help would be = appreciated. Thanks. Best Regards, Timothy M. Jolicoeur HMS Co. LLC., 2170 East Big Beaver Rd. V-Code: 346, Mail Code:480.617.001 E-Mail: tim.jolicoeur Ph: 248.740-7040 Ex138, Fx: 248.740.1105 The information contained in this message is confidential and is = intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in = error or there are any problems please notify the originator = immediately.
SNIP from Tim <Snip> Hey Tim, welcome to the list. I use 409 cleaner and follow up with a rag dampened with clear water. It works great at removeing the deposit. don't forget to clean the doors and where they seat. I've also tried a suggestiong from a list member, using black coffee, it works good also, and no chemicals. good luck. Ron rnkyle Home Roasting in SC
Thanks Ron, I have been using Windex but am quite concerned with the = ammonia smell seeing how absorbent green beans are. Thanks for the = reminder of the butterfly doors at the fan. TJ
I have some questions about the efficacy of cleaning the Alpenrost in order to maintain the mirrored lid interior as a reflector of heat.. It seems to me that the beans are heated by conduction from the drum which absorbs radiant heat from the coils in the bottom of the roaster. I figure that the upper interior of the chamber has a layer of (ultimately smokey) heated air surrounding the rotating drum. Maintaining that heat would seem to be more an insulation consideration being as how the radiant heat source is on the opposite side of the drum. I believe Rick said he has measured a 15 second longer second roast if he doesn't clean the surface between roasts. Is this a cumulative or a one time increase? OK, I admit it. I don't clean mine other than a quick rag wipe out. I don't do exact time comparisons of roasts, but after 150 roasts the times seem to be fairly consistent. I've convinced myself that build-up on the interior and doors gives the roaster more insulation. I'd like a good excuse to continue being lazy. tommcconnel
The interior of my Alp is nice and tarnished with roasting oils. I clean off that powdery buildup a bit and wipe it down once and a while, but the roaster is definitely "seasoned". As to the metal on the lid - I think that's more to keep the plastic cover from getting too hot and melting than to reflect heat back to the coffee. The burners do a fair job of heating up that coffee and I doubt a mirror or tarnished finish on the lid heat-shield would make any noticeable difference in roast times all things being equal. I try to keep *excessive* buildup under control and don't fret the staining or oil tarnish. So far after...a couple of years or three of roasting (lost count - once every 5 days plus extras for friends and inlaws) on the Alp, no problems. My spare Alp rarely gets used. I do take a toothbrush to the vents inside the exhaust/fan chamber to get the residue powder gunk out. I could stand to remove the heat-shield to clean between it and the plastic cover, but it's just that white stuff that really hasn't restricted airflow enough to worry about. Sigh - I think a better design would have been to blow air in rather than pull air out. God knows what kind of shape the fan motor is in or how much out-of-sight buildup there is. Cheers, Mike McConnel wrote: <Snip>
From: "McConnel" OK, I admit it. I don't clean mine other than a quick rag wipe out. I don't <Snip> to <Snip> Well, I've *heard* some people clean the roast chamber of the Rosto too. Uh, take a look athttp://home.attbi.com/~mdmint/coffee/RostoFuse.htmwhich will answer my opinion on the need to clean the Rosto chamber! (Two years ago it was all nice and shiny stainless steel:-) You have my *permission* to continue your current procedure... MM;-) FrankenFormer Rosto Roastin' - Royally Balance Brewin' Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin' too! PNW HomeRoast List Gathering Info' URLhttp://home.attbi.com/~mdmint/coffee/pnwhrg.htm
snip from Tom <Snip> Tom I have done as many as 8 batches without cleaning and have not notice a great deal of difference, I'm like you I wonder if all this cleaning is actually necessary, Im basicly lazy. I'm sure there will be several post that will say the opposite. If you have run 150 roast through yours without cleaning, just an occasional wipe, and have had no problems, Mabey its not needed. I hope you are wright, I think I will do some prolonged roasting without cleaning and see what happens. Ron rnkyle Home Roasting in SC
thanks Tom, and Michael, you have convinced me, I think roasting just got easier with the Alp.
Geez, I'd like a good excuse to start being lazy! When I first got my Alp it was five days before Christmas and I had committed to giving coffee as gifts. I had about 15 pounds of coffee that had to be roasted in three days. I ran 9- to 10- roasts a day. The second roast in my new Alp finished in about 17 minutes. (The first one is always longer due to warm-up.) By the end of the day I couldn't roast all the way to 2nd crack in 20 minutes. Before starting the next day I cleaned out the interior and was hitting second again. In the meantime, in the interest of shortening up roast times to the 14- to 16- minute range I've tweaked my Alp to run a little hotter. I imagine that I could run many roasts before it would take 20 minutes, or perhaps once the build-up reaches a certain point, a steady state is hit. At any rate, it's a pain in the neck cleaning and I'm always afraid I'm going to break the door off at the hinges. -- Rick
Mike writes: <Snip> Generally speaking, common practice in cooling design is to have the fan pull air out because a) the heat produced by the fan is not added to the heat in the box and b) the airflow through the box is more easily modeled. Having said that, I think I remember that the HotTop fan pushes air into the box, which would account for the common statement that the HotTop "leaks smoke like a sieve." -- Rick
At 8:21 AM -0700 4/16/03, Rick Farris wrote: <Snip> Nope, it pulls out the back, albeit only part of the time. A little smoke comes out around the load door, but it's mostly out the back at the fan except for a little at the end when the hot beans are dumped into the cooling tray. I can do a Hottop roast under a standard overhead range hood with less smell in the house than the HWP used to produce. It's likely that the pre-production units were different. Best, David -- Less than 0.1 percent of the U.S. population gave 83 percent of all itemized campaign contributions for the 2002 elections, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
snip from Ricks Post. <Snip> I will second that Rick, I've decided to try the not cleaning route. I have 6 roasts so far and have not noticed any change in time. More will be reveiled I guess. Ron rnkyle Home Roasting in SC