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Topic: Alp vs Hottop (6 msgs / 120 lines)
1) From: James Derek Savanella
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Can anyone help with a comparison of these two roasters? Is it worth $300 to get one more ounce of coffee roasted and to be able to watch beans in Hottop instead of the Alp? Is there enough control(s) with the Hottop to alter roast profiles noticeably? At least, is there any data or facts I can use to convince the wife?  ;^)
Thanks,
James

2) From: John Abbott
Boy James, this almost looks like a troll post :O)
I have only sampled the Alp so my comments aren't really fair.  But I do
own a HotTop and was lucky enough to be an early adopter and watched it
settle into our marketplace. 
The HotTop had a bunch of small nagging problems in the beginning which
have now been completely dealt with - resulting in a very smooth
operating machine.
The Alp has gone through a series of problems - primarily in their
manufacturing - and they generated a series of failing machines.  They
have cleaned up their act and should be launching a new version soon. 
But the reports of Alp failures continue to crop up on the list.
As for the resulting roasts I can only go by a five day side by side -
and I really like the HT results best.  The HT runs much quieter than
the Alp and has a better cooling cycle.  But the question still remains
as to whether it is worth the $300 additional cost.  My choice was yes.
The Alp has been on the market a long time and has a huge following of
loyal folks who will defend it with their own blood.  The HotTop is
still new enough that the data gathering process is still continuing.   
I bought mine based on the profile system in the HT - the silent
operation - the very low smoke and the elegance of appearance.  You'll
have to weigh that out for yourself.
John - Steel Skillet, Wok, FR, FR+, hacked FR and HotTop pilot.
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 11:04, James Derek Savanella wrote:
    Can anyone help with a comparison of these two roasters? Is it worth
    $300 to get one more ounce of coffee roasted and to be able to watch
    beans in Hottop instead of the Alp? Is there enough control(s) with
    the Hottop to alter roast profiles noticeably? At least, is there
    any data or facts I can use to convince the wife?  ;^)
    Thanks,
    James

3) From: John Blumel
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:04:01 -0400, James Derek Savanella wrote:
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Yes. You can actually comfortably get 2 ounces more. Moreover, coffee
roasted in the Hottop is simply better, at all roast levels, than what
the Alpenrost can produce.
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Not really but the Alp can often have problems reaching very far into
2nd crack. This is generally not an issue when roasting 250g or less in
the Hottop.
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No.
John Blumel

4) From: Rick Farris
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The biggest difference is that the HotTop actually _has_ a profile.  The
Alpenrost, on the other hand, is simply an oven with a rotating drum
inside -- no smarts, no profile.

5) From: Michael Vanecek
I have a pair of Alps and am very happy with them so far. I've had one 
failure three or so years ago, but that's since been resolved and I've 
roasted countless roasts with nary a problem. Nothing on the grocer 
shelves comes close to my humble coffee. I'm curious to see what their 
new Alp is like. And...I'm curious about the HotTop too. Their earlier 
problems made me back-burner the HotTop idea, but if they've cleared 
those out, I may have to start begging the wife again. I'm always up for 
a new toy to play with. :) So...I'm not an Alp fanatic. Happy with it 
and used to roasting with it but very open to other roasters too. For 
me, it's a tool. I *would* like to explore profiling the roasts - if the 
HotTop or new Alp facilitates this, it may be a coin toss for me.
Be well,
Mike - WBII, HP, Alp
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6) From: Dave Huddle
My ALP has no trouble making charcoal!   It can easily go way past 2nd.
I usually hit the cool button between 15:00 and 17:30
Dave
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