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Topic: Morning pot eVac setup (7 msgs / 162 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
We'll start the day tomorrow with 432/4365 50:50 both 450 in 12:-) I always
put the beans in Rocky's hopper for Debi to grind for our 25oz mini eVac
workday first pot.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
MCSE (Maniacal Coffee Systems Engineer/Enthusiast;-)
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2) From: AlChemist John
Sounds good, although I find I like 4365 100 @ 440 in 11 :-)
Sometime around 22:57 7/7/2003, miKe mcKoffee typed:
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3) From: john kangas
I hear that you like your Sumatra roasted light! My thermometer claims 440 
is 6 or 8 degrees into second, I'm presently sipping at some Harrar, 428 
degrees in 11 minutes... 5 degrees before second by my thermometer. Where's 
second crack on your thermometer? Perhaps relation to second crack and roast 
time would give a common reference, second seems to vary with roast time a 
bit, not to mention grassiness lingering further into shorter roasts. 
Anyways, something like this might give us a somewhat reliable comparison 
regardless of thermometer placement (within reason) or varying heat loss of 
different roasters. Or thermometer accuracy, mine's a little off I'm sure, 
but 2 or 3% of 5 degrees is a lot less than 2 or 3% of 430.
Back to 4365... I tried it lighter when I heard your recommendation, and I'm 
glad you mentioned it! I've been roasting it since then between 5 or 10 
degrees before second, right where the origin flavors and early roast 
flavors do thier balancing act. Good stuff!
John Kangas
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee

5) From: Rick Farris
John wrote:
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We discussed this last fall, and that is exactly what we decided: The
real landmarks are start of first crack, end of first crack, start of
2nd crack, rolling 2nd, etc.  So part of every discussion of temperature
needs to be "In my setup when I roast X coffee, I enter first at about
410, leave first at 415, start 2nd at 445, and am at full rolling 2nd
by 450."
At that point you're calibrated and can talk about stopping the roast at
440, for instance, and we'll all know that you mean just before 2nd
crack, even if on our setup we enter 2nd at 425.
-- Rick

6) From: miKe mcKoffee

7) From: AlChemist John
Yes, I like most of my roasts on the lighter side.  I like to be able to 
taste variety most of the time.  My palate tends to get overwhelmed by 
roast flavor.  I tend to hit 1st at 390-400 and 2nd at 450-455, so the 
Sumatra in question is 5-10 degrees shy of 2nd crack.  I used to roast a 
bit more lazy and wait for 2nd and hit the cool switch but I was noticing I 
was not enjoying the cups quite as much.
Sometime around 09:04 7/8/2003, john kangas typed:
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John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
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