Hello, I am new to the list. I joined because about 10 months ago I went to work full time for a new nonprofit that works with the families of missing children. It is very rewarding but being new we donít have a great cash flow. So I am low paid and even at times have to forgo a paycheck all together. I knew this when I came on board and knew that if I was going to do it that I was going to have to make some cut backs in my life. So gone are the car payments and any car that full coverage insurance would be worth carrying. Gone too are the 2 or 3 meals out a week. Gone are so many things. The one thing that I WILL not give up is good coffee. I will be dang if I am going to drink anything out of a can (EVER) So I was told that if I roasted at home it would stretch my coffee dollar. (AND get a better cup of coffee) So I need some advice on what would be a good (and cheap) way to get into home roasting? Also what is a good cheap grinder. I have to really state that low priced is very important. I know that I canít buy the best or even one of the best, but what you say would be the best AND lowest priced way to get into home roasting? Thank You Dean Powers Want to help when a child is missing?http://www.fourthekids.org
The cheapest way to roast is in a pan, I use a wok, that you already have. You may not be able to do this because of smoke detectors or others complaining about smoke. I made do for about 6 months with a cheap whirly blade grinder that I picked up at a garage sale for 50 cents. Brewing is another issue. I never liked drip pots or percolators so I sprung for a French press for about $8.00 at a large kitchen supply store. Over time, I've acquired a nicer grinder, Solis, and brewing tool, Coffee Gaggia, which have improved the coffee but by far the biggest improvement in the coffee experience was the shift to fresh home roasted coffee bought from Tom. When I made that change, the cost of my coffee actually declined. Even after adding the nicer grinder and espresso machine, I don't think I am spending as much as I used to for really bad coffee. Jim Gundlach Roasting in a wok on a wood stove burning oak in Shorter, Alabama <Snip>
<Snip> The Westbend popper! The popper goes for $10-$25.http://www.ineedcoffee.com/content/1999/04/homeroast.aspAs far as grinder goes, Target sells a Braun for less than $20. It grinds pretty well if you pulse it for a few seconds instead of holding it down for longer than 6 seconds. 3 seconds grind, stop, 3 seconds grind, stop. After a little practice, you'll be able to get the perfect grind for any brewing equipment. mas
Thank you. I picked up a grinder yesterday at a thrift store. ($1.25) It was brand new. It still had a card in the box where someone had gotten it for a gift.. Wondered if I should have sent them a thank you. lol But I really want to thank everyone who written with advice. I can't wait to roast. Dean
MAS, Thanks for the advice on the grinder. I found a new one at a thrift store. I have a question. How do you clean it after use? I was telling a friend about buying it and he said that they are hard to clean. He said something about using cornmeal??????? THANK YOU! Dean Want to help when a child is missing?http://www.fourthekids.orgMichael Allen Smith wrote: <Snip>
At 03:57 PM 4/3/00, Dean Powers wrote: <Snip> What kind is it - a burr grinder (two rotating disks, like a flour mill) or a whirlybird (two little blades that spin, like a blender)? If it's a burr grinder, I would recommend running about two tablespoons of raw, dry white rice through it. This will leave just a tiny bit of rice powder residue in the works - which you can just ignore. If it's a whirlybird, I've always been able to clean them with a damp rag. HTH, Seth Goodman
A trick I use to minimize cleaning is on the last pulse, while holding the lid tight, spin the grinder upside down. Once upside down, pulse it again and the coffee will fall into the lid and away from the blades. Slowly pull the lid off and it acts as a coffee basket. Hence, there is nothing left to clean. The only time I need to clean is when I make a fine grind for espresso. A lazy mans way to clean this is to use lighter roasted beans ground in the above manner. Not sure about the cornmeal, that sounds like work. I've been doing the upside down pulse method for almost 10 years. mas <Snip> I <Snip> about <Snip> using <Snip>
you can use rice or saltines. if you leave them coarse they're easier to clean. Bob C. rcantor
Dean, the easiest way is to put in chunks of white bread and whirl away. I break a slice up into quarters and whirl each quarter and empty between each quarter. Takes out all the oil too in addition to the coffee. Birds just love this.
At 06:19 PM 4/3/00 -0400, you wrote: <Snip> Hmmmm..... am I the only one who NEVER cleans his whirlyblade grinder? The current grind cleans out the remains of the previous one just fine for me. I grind every day, so nothing stays long enough to make much difference?? BTW, my "pulse" method differs from what was recently posted. My grinder can get to full speed in about a second, so I pulse for about 200 mS on and maybe 800 mS off. In other words, I never let the blade accelerate past maybe 30% of maximum speed. Just bouncing the finger on the button does it. Paul Goelz Rochester Hills, MI pgoelz at eaglequest dot com Videoastronomy and music web site:http://www.eaglequest.com/~pgoelz
<Snip> No, I just thump it on the side to shake out the leftovers. I use it at least twice a day, once for morning brew, and once for nightly decaf. PS. I also brutalize the grinder, by thumping it once or twice on the counter to knock the coffee back in the bowl before I open it. Otherwise, the coffee goes all over the place. Don, HWP, Whirly-blade, auto-drip
I thought that the pulsing was to keep the motor from heating up the coffee as you grind it. Is there another reason to pulse? Dean Paul Goelz wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip>
At 10:52 AM 4/4/00 -0500, you wrote: <Snip> coffee as <Snip> I pulse to keep the grinder from grinding too fine. The fineness of the grind is in direct proportion to the speed of the blades. I have never believed that the blades heat anything enough to make a difference, but that's just my opinion. Paul Goelz Rochester Hills, MI pgoelz at eaglequest dot com Videoastronomy and music web site:http://www.eaglequest.com/~pgoelz
Dean, Pulsing is used by "coarse grind devotees" as a way to control the grind size by limiting the blade speed. To see how good you are, spill the grounds onto a white dish and count the boulders. To heat up coffee grounds with a blade grinder may take about 5 or 10 minutes for any perceived increase. If this is bad then why use hot water to brew coffee? I say hammer down, full speed ahead. But this is my preference. The coffee in the middle of those boulders is wasted. I am curious now. I have some old 8 O'Clock beans in the freezer. I will try to measure the increase in temperature with a thermocouple after running the blade grinder. There is no reason to assume when one can measure. I may even brew the results and take a sip. -- Ken Mary - Mars Pennsylvania - Aromaroast - whirlyblade - French Press The Angry Philosopher is [ IN ] Email your non coffee questions. ---------- <Snip> <Snip>
I understand. I use a cone filter so fine grind is ok for me. I just started so I have a lot to learn. Dean Paul Goelz wrote: <Snip>
Sorry this email got mixed in with a bunch of others. Thanks for the advice. Dean Seth Goodman wrote: <Snip>
I know that this is a list for "home roasters", but I was wondering if I could draw upon the wealth of knowledge available here for some assistance. I've been on this list for almost 2 years and have come across many who have different levels of experience. I have been planning on and looking for the right opportunity to open up a coffee shop/micro roaster business. The opportunity appears to have presented itself. As such, I'd like to see if anyone out there has any experience in this sort of start up. You can reply off list if you like so we don't clutter up this list with non home roasting issues. Specifically: What's the best company to deal with in terms of Raw goods (green beans) at this level of production? Best Roaster? Equipment - Lease or buy? What makes for espresso machines, coffee makers, grinders. Start up costs? Any other issues you might think are relevant. Thanks so much in advance for your help. Michael A. Roaster of Vienna, Va.
I would like to see the responses kept on the list - a few of us are contemplating the same move. - emigrantBean Message: 19 From: MMore Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:48:41 EST To: homeroast Subject: +Re: Advice needed Reply-To: homeroast -------------------------------1104770921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that this is a list for "home roasters", but I was wondering if I could draw upon the wealth of knowledge available here for some assistance. I've been on this list for almost 2 years and have come across many who have different levels of experience. I have been planning on and looking for the right opportunity to open up a coffee shop/micro roaster business. The opportunity appears to have presented itself. As such, I'd like to see if anyone out there has any experience in this sort of start up. You can reply off list if you like so we don't clutter up this list with non home roasting issues. Specifically: What's the best company to deal with in terms of Raw goods (green beans) at this level of production? Best Roaster? Equipment - Lease or buy? What makes for espresso machines, coffee makers, grinders. Start up costs? Any other issues you might think are relevant. Thanks so much in advance for your help. Michael A. Roaster of Vienna, Va.
I second that motion. Verdova
I agree also - I have been roasting and selling a tiny bit, and am certainly contemplating the move to a small business.... On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:32:29 -0700, William G Teags wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast __]_ _(( )_ Please don't spill the coffee!