When I first read Dale's obnoxious condemnation of gin's FILTHY and
DISGUSTING speech, I was so offended by it(Dale's) that I started to write
a reply, but I bridled my speech lest I profane the sacredness of the OT
rule. But now that this has become a thread of such pomposity and
sanctimonious BS (can I say that?), I feel that I can't control my tongue
any longer. -well, I can but I won't :-).
The terrible word that gin used, I will venture to say, has been used by
most of us at least once in our lifetimes in many of it's linguistic forms
(cf. George Carlin's monologue on this). Hell (oops!), I'm willing to bet
JC even said the Aramaic equivalent of it a couple of times when he banged
his finger with a hammer. He was, after all, a carpenter., and things like
that happen.If we haven't used it, we have certainly heard it. It's not a
I seem to remember a long "tee-hee"thread about the origin of the word
"crap"... Not one message of protest from Dale, who claims to read every
message...Was that maybe because most (if not ALL) of the participants in
that thread were male? Hmmmm... a little Victorian sexism, here?
None of you high-minded individuals seemed to notice what I consider a much
more offensive line from Dale's remarks..
"> Gin, I write your in in the effort to stop your language on the list"
"Stop your language"..!!! This doesn't bother anyone? He wants to control
another's speech on the list and you good people think that this is
OK...(smh). I value what's still left of the First amendment and I won't
sit quietly while it gets trashed further in this venue...
You might also look up the definition of "profanity"...Way at the bottom
(can I say that?) of the list of accepted definitions is "coarseness",
which I think is the one you want...
I seriously doubt that gin "intentionally" meant to offend Dale, or the
other thin-skinned individuals on the list.... And, wouldn't it be up to
Tom to admonish gin? Who made you gentlemen the Enforcers of the Code?
Quote from a politician, slave owner and soldier(whose business is
killing). I'm sure George never said, THE word, nor heard it said by anyone
in his army...:-)
Politician...Lawyer I'm willing to bet old Cicero did the "pull my
finger" bit a couple of times in his day.
Good advice..Says nothing about cussin'.
However, Bill had a lot of advice on seducing women, but let's not go
Politician Admits the difficulty in bridling... Boy, is he right!
So, a mute has no soul???
Well, this is a sterling person to quote...check it out...http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/cnm/htmlpages/cowperbiog1.htmlA parasite, who attempted suicide three times....I've gotta get more
inspiration from him!
snip...more of the same
Maybe a plonk is a better way of dealing with this. I think being plonked
is much more preferable to being the subject of an attempted public
Of course Dale, and you, could have sent an off-list "recommendation" to
gin, but then we wouldn't have been exposed to the "fragile sensitivity" of
some of the people on the list. So, we back up our "feelings"with quotes
from a bunch of politicians -whom we all know to be the paragons of virtue
and morality- (er, that was sarcastic, folks) and a couple of hack
preachers, who have issues of their own....
And, yes, I could have responded off list, but since this became so public,
what with the brining in of the "big guns" I chose to reply in kind...
The only responsibility is to not willfully cause damage or harm...There
was no harm in gin's "word" except to the egoes of the List Polizei, who
need very little to incite their desire for control...
Respect is in the eye of the respected...No one can disrespect you if you
don't already feel that way about yourself.....Get over it...
Time to get back to coffee..... I have a new thread..What's the crappiest
cup of coffee you've ever had?