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Topic: tradition offering (151 msgs / 3089 lines)
1) From: gin
Zara:
This is not a tradirion.
Offer whatever you want for sale or for free but not as a tradition if you ask for shipping.
ginny

2) From: gin
Folks,
I was wrong, Zara I am sorry.
It is a wonderful gift and Tradition.
ginny

3) From: David Lewis
Chris Coffee is selling a steam tip with two small holes. It 
apparently makes microfoam easy when steaming small amounts of milk. 
At the offering price I thought I'd try it to see if it fit my 
Techno, whose stock tip is fine if you're trying to steam commercial 
quantities of milk but overwhelms small home quantities. The tip 
doesn't fit: the thread appears to be 10 x 1.25 mm (guessing here, as 
I don't have an inside thread gauge), and the Techno's is 10 x 1.0. 
Send me an email if you'd like it.
Best,
	David
-- 
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is 
nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

4) From: Dan Bollinger
I got the tip from Chris' and it didn't screw onto my Isomac Millenium. I
did some measurements and determined that the Isomac wasn't metric, but used
a straight 1/8"x27 pipe thread. The new tip was 1/8"x27 tapered pipe thread.
I chased the tip with a 1/8" plug tap and it screwed right on.
<Snip>http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html<Snip>

5) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
I received the extra tradition offered by Zara yesterday so I'm 
offering up the extra float valve like the one I used to "plumb" Miss 
Silvia.  The valve connects to 1/4" plastic tubing like that used to 
run water to an ice maker.  This one has the adjustable float and can 
be mounted through a hole in a horizontal piece, like the lid to the 
Miss Silvia water tank, or through the vertical side of a tank.  It 
requires an operating surface area of at least 1.25" by 5.5" when 
installed through a tank top and 1.25 wide by  6.5" long, away from the 
hole in the wall, when installed through the side of a tank.   I will 
randomly select a name next Sunday night before going to bed.  To 
enter, email OFF list to:
         PecanJam
Jim Gundlach

6) From: alfred
Jim: When you pipe this unit  in this manner, I would suggest you use
braided stainless tubing. I started out with the 1/4" plastic but almost had
an accident. Apparently the plastic gets warm and soft from the cover over
the machine after a period of time.
Suddenly while watching TV, the water began to shoot out from the
compression fitting on the cover of the tank. Thank goodness I was home at
the time.

7) From: Jason Brooks
Greetings,
    I come offering up a very late Tradition Offering.  Here's the swag:
       a set of two, apparantly restaurant-grade coffee cups.  They're 
oddly small, holding about 4 oz.  They have an art-deco, 1950's 
double-diamond on each side.  The bottom reveals the following: Trend 
China, Syracuse. They'll do for a double shot, and are just right for a 
press cup (by technical definition).
    Send me your name by 12:00 PM this Friday, March 12th and I'll 
select the winner at random later that night.  The winner will be 
notified by on the list, and will need to send me their address offlist 
for receipt.
Bon Chance!
Jason
-- 
Jason Brooks
jbrooks
-------------------------------
Hanging Out in the Heart of VA,
With HW Gourmet, Poppery, and soon arriving BBQ roasters,
With Bodum Chambord and Krups Gusto brewers,
Drinking good coffee with anyone that arrives!

8) From: miKe mcKoffee
I have two no longer needed Weber bi-metal thermometers. One reads about 15f
low at 212f the other about 10f. No biggy as long as you remember and
remember to recheck where they're at in relation to 212f. Two years ago both
right on the money. Oh, they are not adjustable, cheapo $10 jobs. But if you
forget they're off, and don't trust your nose, you can end up with a roast a
tad darker than intended! Bean there done that. Broke down and bought a good
$40 bi-metal from McMaster-Carr with 6" stem. The Webers have 5&1/2" stems,
1&3/4" dial BTW. Weber pictured on the left, "tad" bit larger dialed Trend
on the right...http://home.comcast.net/~mdmint/coffee/thermometers.jpg(you might wonder why the temperature readings in the picture are so
different, just finished roasting a 1/2# batch using the Trend...)
If you can use one of them reply offlist. If more than two reply I'll draw
this Saturday noonish PST.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm

9) From: Stephen Jones
I have a very nice Poppery II that I would like to offer.  I've used it once
and it's a good one.
I'll give it to the 8th person I receive email from (or the last person if I
don't get 8) by Friday, 4/16, noon eastern daylight time.
Stephen Jones

10) From: Ben Treichel
With Thanks to Ruth who actually won the tradition, and Ron L, I have a 
lovely blue Gaudi cup that reminds me of the Cathedral in Barcelona I 
saw 20 years ago.
So, I'm offering a choice to the winner of this tradition,
a terry tamper - al. 53mm on one end, 58 mm on the other (have two thors 
now)
or
a 1250 watt popcorn pumper.
Drawing next Saturday morning.
Ben

11) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
I have owed a tradition for a while.  I knew what I wanted to offer but 
I could not find it until just now.  I am offering the 1996 edition of 
Kenneth Davids Home Coffee Roasting paperback book.  This is not the 
revised and updated edition that still carries the 2004 copyright.  The 
one I am offering has the good pictures of the four Agtron tiles #'s 
85, 65, 45, & 25 inside the back cover.  This is missing form the 
updated edition, but my updated edition is autographed by Davids and 
mentions Sweet Maria's.  Both of which are missing from the offered 
book. The procedure, email me off list by 10:00 p.m. Wednesday the 
12th, and I will use a random number generator to pick the winner.  The 
offer is open to anyone on the list, I am willing to ship to anywhere 
in the world.
       Jim Gundlach

12) From: Barry Luterman
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My turn to offer a tradition. Don't laugh but this is great. It cleans =
loose chaff and residue ground beans from your countertops easily. Reply =
off-list. Tradition to be awarded Sunday. To view:http://share.shut=">http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAMnLZsyaMmjI3Ahttp://share.shut=terfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAMnLZsyaMmjI3A

13) From: Rob Stewart
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Barry,
How does it do on body hair removal?   If it will do it, I would be =
interested.
Rob

14) From: Barry Luterman
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Haven't tried it. But can you imagine the remarks after its announced =
that you won a Mr. Sticky. Poor Ginny, if she wins. Do you want in?

15) From: Rob Stewart
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without knowing ..... I think I'll hold off on Mr. Sticky   ......Thanks

16) From: Simpson
The site gives me an error:
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been disabled. 
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
On 5/14/2004 at 3:08 PM Barry Luterman wrote:
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ly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAMnLZsyaMmjI3A
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unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings-----
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That
way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."
(author unknown)

17) From: Barry Luterman
Try again it still works for me

18) From: Allen Marsalis
At 11:48 PM 5/14/2004 -0400, Simpson wrote:
 >The site gives me an error:
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Maybe try this one Simpson:http://tinyurl.com/322k2Allen
am

19) From: Dave Huddle
My employer block access to it.   Something about 'personal storage'  :(
Dave
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unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings

20) From: Gregg Talton
Where in Honolulu do you find Mr. Sticky.  I'm here now on vacation.
By the way, ever visit the Coffee Gallery in Northshore? ... just down from 
Matsumoto Shave Ice.  I enjoyed a cup from there yesterday. I'm told that 
the owner roasts every morning.  There's a Deidrich in the shop and another 
roaster on a crate... bags of Kona everywhere.
Gregg
<Snip>
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21) From: Rick Farris
Last time I found it there, it was down on Hotel Street.
-- Rick

22) From: gin
why am I not surprised?
g
At 02:41 PM 5/17/2004, you wrote:
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23) From: Gregg Talton
I just got a history lesson from my family here in Hawaii.  Now that I 
understand... ha ha.
<Snip>
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Premium!http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/

24) From: Barry Luterman
At the Ward Center in Honolulu. They have a store that sells only items you
have seen demo'd on TV. I think the store is called Item you have seen on TV

25) From: Barry Luterman
I think he's still there

26) From: gin
I heard Mr. Sticky was picked up in Vancouver trying to steal Mike M huge 
stash...
At 04:23 PM 5/17/2004, you wrote:
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27) From: Jean
Has anyone heard from Mike?
I miss him!
Jean

28) From: Pamela Chadwick
I am offering "HOME COFFEE ROASTING' Romance & Revival. I'll have SM ship it
wherever the winner is. Send me your email & I'll let one of my parrots beak
the winner out Sat. morning.
Pam
quakerpam at cox dot net

29) From: Ed Needham
No fair soaking the entry paper in cracker aroma.
Ed
vacationing in Palm Beach, Florida and sipping homeroast provided by Tom
Ulmer, my coffee 'hero', who saved me from insipid and burnt Starb_ux in an
auto drip.  Thanks for a wonderful thermos of brew!

30) From: Michael Guterman
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Ed Needham wrote:
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My parrots would much rather have a chicken leg than a cracker.  Just a 
touch of chicken fat on the entry.
Michael
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31) From: Jeffrey Pawlan
I won a tradition offering of decaf beans and I will be offering
2 lbs of regular (non-dacaf) green beans consisting of:
1 lb of Ethiopian Yirg
1 lb of Kenya AA
I won't be able to choose the winner until we get back from the PNWG. I will
make the choice on Monday June 21.  Because of my strenuous anti-spam measures
here and I expect that I will have over 1500 spams when I return, Please put the
following in the subject line:  Tradition Entry
If I don't see that in the subject line I will probably think it is spam and
delete it.
Again, I will choose the winner on Monday June 21.
I will ship it to anywhere in the USA at my expense. Overseas entries are
acceptable but you will need to pay for shipping.

32) From: Matt Roth
Hey all,
    After winning Jeffrey's tradition and being treated to an additional
bonus of some of the bst shots of espresso that I've had in a looooong time,
it's now time for my offering.  I have been waiting for the Australian to
come in and now it has.  So with that, I am offereing one pound of the
Australian Mountain Top XF.  I will be going to Laguna Seca to work at the
races this weekend, (motorcucle, that is) so the tradition will be open
until Monday, July 12.  When I return, the first message that I fall asleep
on will be the winner.
Matt Roth

33) From: Stephen Jones
Up for grabs is a Presto Poplite popper.  I experimented with this and for
me it's too much trouble (has a hole in the bottom with a screen, rather
than louvres like the popperies).  But there've been a lot of posts recently
about using this type of machine, so I figured someone could make good use
of it.  It's 1440 watts; made in the USA; clean, in excellent condition with
hood and butter dish.  If you search for it on ebay you'll see what it looks
like.
Email me off list.  Tradition ends Monday 9/20 at midnight EST.  The
respondent whose last name begins with the letter closest to the first
letter of my son's first name will get it.
And my thanks again to Tom for the list and the list members for all the fun
I've had.
Stephen Jones

34) From: Sue
After winning Scotts Tazza d'Oro tradition offering a while back, I
finally thought  of something to offer! I am offering a Vietnamese
Coffee Maker and a can of Cafe du Monde. I ordered an extra of each
and have really enjoyed it! The only other thing you'll need is a can
of sweetened condensed milk. I'm also including a couple bars of
Hazelnut Cappuccino Soap that my sister made. It's great soap to have
by the kitchen sink to help get rid of strong odors like onions! 
Please enter by responding off-line by Friday 10/22, by 5pm. I'll pick
a winner that evening!
Sue

35) From: Zara Haimo
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At last summer's PNWG, someone (Alfred?) left a Krups model 966 espresso =
maker with Alchemist John to pass on to someone who needed it.  My Gusto =
was leaking then, so John gave me the 966 to use until I could get the =
Gusto repaired which I finally just did.  The 966 works well and is =
complete with a portafilter and double basket.  I'd like to pass it on =
to someone else who can use it with the caveat that the person who takes =
it must either pick it up from me (SF Bay area) or pay for shipping =
(about 16 pounds).  If you're interested in the 966, send me your name =
off list and I'll have my son draw a winner from his trusty baseball cap =
this Wednesday evening at 9:00 PST.

36) From: Jean
From: "gin" 
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you ask for shipping.
<Snip>
Hi Ginny,
We had this discussion on the list a few months ago, resulting in going =
back to the beginning of the Tradition, which included the recipient =
paying shipping.  Maybe Zara can't afford the shipping.  I'd rather see =
the machine offered with a request that the recipient pay shipping, than =
have it sit in the back of a closet collecting dust.
 
JMO,
Jean  :~)

37) From: AlChemist John
Who made you keeper of the tradition rules?  This is the utmost of what the 
tradition was about.  Circulating a fine piece of equipment that one person 
was done with so another could use it.  Alfred delivered it to me, I 
delivered it to Zara, Zara is only asking someone allow her to deliver it 
in person (pick it up) or just not cost her anything.  The no shipping cost 
of most traditions is just to keep things equal. This still is.
Sometime around 19:23 12/5/2004, gin typed:
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--
John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

38) From: Ed Needham
There now.  Don't you feel cleaner and more alive?

39) From: Ben Treichel
gin wrote:
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good girl!
-- 
Ben Treichel
Program Manager
S.E Michigan
SwRI
248-232-7365 (o)
248-935-6845 (m)

40) From: petzul
Since I have an abundance of coffee roasting stuff, and probably will 
never use all the West Bend Poppery II's that I have, I have decided to 
offer two of them in one tradition.
It is good to have two (or more I thought) because one often succumbs to 
experimenting, and the other you just need to roast with.
I have not roasted with these, but they do heat up and work fine. Maybe 
you even get a choice of colors! ( I really have way too many hot air 
machines here). If you win and want another type, just ask, but I need 
to offer two at a time, and not sure I can match something different.
Please write me off list, and I will draw the winner next Saturday, Feb 13.
PeterZ
Wondering what you people who roast 2 - 4 lbs at a time do with all the 
coffee, here in LHC.

41) From: petzul
Tuesday is trash day, so I am cleaning out my garage again. Some day I 
will get to see the floor perhaps.
Forget putting a car inside.
You probably noticed that I am an avid tinkerer, and love to try 
roasting coffee.
Sadly, there comes a time when one just KNOWS that one will never get to 
certain  projects, or even use certain things ever again (sniff).
With these considerations, and making additional disclaimers as to what 
you might be going to do with these items,
and with no guarantee expressed or implied,
and with your full knowledge that experimenting with electrical 
appliances can be hazardous,
and your knowing that one should use an electrical appliance only for 
its intended purpose,
I offer up for your disposal a 1200 watt Turbo Air Convection Oven Cover.
This includes the glass top and the electric part that has a dial timer 
and a dial thermostat that is calibrated to 500F, and a power cord with 
some heat shield on it.
(I used it to roast coffee, and went on from there. )
It sits on a shelf, gathering dust, along with a semi modified Stir 
Crazy, which I consider a bit wimpy.
But that's just me.
Said Stir Crazy has had the heating element disconnected, and then 
connected again to it's own cord which comes out the bottom of the 
chassis through a genuine electricians strain relief connector.
I did plug it in, and it gets hot, and the stir crazy rod goes around, 
and reverses.
Again, no guarantees expressed or implied. I suggest you use this just 
to pop popcorn, as was it's initial intended use.
If you want to roast coffee with it, well, that's up to you.
Some people do with great results I hear, with the added, included 
convection oven thingie.
But I would never suggest doing such a thing.
I am offering these pieces merely as parts,
inanimate objects.
I think they may be electrical because they have cords on them. I do not 
claim to know what you do with these things, nor do I advise you to do 
anything with them except to put them in your garage and let them 
collect dust.
If you want to experiment and try roasting coffee, please let us all 
know how  this works for you.
Please email me off list if you want into the drawing held next Sunday.
PeterZ
Sadly getting rid of old projects, here in LHC.

42) From: Spencer Thomas
I was the recipient of a "tradition" book embarassingly long ago.  I
am now offering up a (gently used) copy of the book "The Coffee
Trader" by David Liss.  The book is a sort of "historical thriller"
based around an attempt to corner the market in coffee in the mid-17th
century.
You can read more about the book at Amazon:http://tinyurl.com/3lw9uEmail me directly before midnight Eastern daylight time (GMT-4) if you
are interested, and I'll pull a name from my hat.
=Spencer

43) From: Spencer Thomas
The winner of "The Coffee Trader" tradition offering is Peter Z
(petzul).  Congratuations.
=Spencer

44) From: petzul
Oh Goodie!!!
:-)
Thanks Spencer,
PeterZ
Spencer Thomas wrote:
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45) From: Tara Kollas
Okay - I've been on the list for about four months now, so I'm
offering my first tradition gift in honor of my younger daughter
learning to crawl and become a complete menace - she can now scream
and move forward at the same time!
Up for grabs is a brand new Toddy coffee maker.  This makes a great
cold brewed coffee - add water, milk, or nothing at all.  I originally
bought it for spare parts in case I lost/broke anything from the set I
already had - since it's been in the box now for the better part of a
year, I thought perhaps someone else might get more enjoyment out of
it - especially since the hotter months are now upon us.  I opened it
just to make sure everything was intact (it is).
If you're interested, please send me your name off list.  I will have
my toddler draw the winner's name out of a hat over the 4th of July
weekend (this is sort of in honor of the baby, but she'd just eat the
paper, so her sister gets the job).  Thanks to all for the great
coffee companionship over the past several months!
Tara

46) From: Jerry Procopio
I'm offering up a Cona vacuum coffee pot as a list Tradition Offering. 
This is a "Kitchen Standard" model, approximately 2 pints.  It can be 
viewed athttp://conapottradition.freeservers.com/It is in it's 
original box which is labeled "Cona Gift Set".  I purchased this last 
year from a seller in Great Britain.  It is in like new condition and 
comes complete with the alcohol lamp, stand, and pouring lid.  I may 
even have the original paper instructions somewhere (I'll check).  I 
have three other vacuum pots and would rather let this one go as a 
Tradition than have it just sit on a shelf in my already overstuffed garage.
If you are interested, please contact me OFF LIST and I'll put your name 
in the hat.  I'll have Mickie draw a name from the hat about 9PM on 
January 31.  I will confirm all entries, so if you enter and don't hear 
back from me within 24 hours of entering, please send me another e-mail.
Bonne chance!
Jerry

47) From: Peter Zulkowski
Since I have way too many Eggstractor's for removing coffee grounds from 
burr chambers.
I will offer my latest to the list as a tradition.
It can be seen at:  http://homeroasters.org/php/forum/viewforum.php?forum_idIf any one is interested please email me off list:
PeterZ
PeterZ
The weather is warming up, here in LHC

48) From: Peter Zulkowski
The Tradition will be drawn this Sunday evening, April 09, 2006, when 
the sun sets, here in LHC.
PeterZ
Peter Zulkowski wrote:
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49) From: Peter Zulkowski
Linda Ferguson is the winner!
Congratulations Linda, please send me your snail mail address off list 
and I will ship it right out to you.
PeterZ
Peter Zulkowski wrote:
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50) From: Thomas Pfau
I'm running low on decaf beans so I'll be placing an order soon.  Since 
I owe on a tradition offering, I am going to give away a $25 Sweet 
Maria's email gift certificate.
If you wish to participate, send an email to pfau with the 
subject 'Tradition'.  In the body of your message, 1) suggest a coffee 
(regular or decaf) currently being offerred by Sweet Maria's and why you 
think I should try it, 2) specify the email address to use when ordering 
the gift certificate, and 3) make a guess as to how many grams of beans 
are left in my 5 pound (2268 gm) bag of Tanzania Peaberry Decaf.
The winner will be the person submitting the closest guess.  In case of 
ties, the winner will be the earliest guess received.  One guess per 
person, please.  If you send me more than one guess, I'll keep the last 
one received.  I'll summarize the coffee suggestions if others would 
like to see them.
The winner will be picked on Monday, May 8.
-- 
tom_p
pfau --http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/

51) From: John Ferguson
I'm in the process of packing up house and moving and I'm trying to take 
as little as possible with me! So I am offering a two used coffee related 
books (which don't have too many coffee stains on them) free to a good 
home. They are:
(1) Coffee  - a guide to buying, brewing and enjoying 5th Ed, by Kenneth 
Davids
(2) Home Coffee Roasting - Romance and Revival, by Kenneth Davids 
If you are interested, please send me your email address offlist, with 
"Tradition Offering" in subject line. Not only will the drawing be random 
but so will the date and time (depending on my schedule) but if you get 
your name to me before 6pm on Sunday, EST, then you'll definitely be 
included.
Regards
John

52) From: Scott Miller
With all the folks expressing joy at their Harvey packages arriving, 
I'll just go ahead and pile on a tradition offering. My Harvey package 
included Sumatra (Classic & Iskandar), CR (La Minita & La Magnolia), 
Brazil (Carmo de Minas & Camocim Yellow Icatu), the DP Yirg AND...
Panama Carmen Estate 1800+ Meters
THE OFFERING: 1 pound green beans, Panama Carmen Estate 1800+ Meters
I won a tradition of the previous year's Carmen Estate (thanks again, 
Jeff). Though my first roast of it was very good I did a roast again of 
last year's and a roast of this current lot. A bit lighter roast gave a 
very different cup that I enjoyed even more. I find the Kenya-like 
acidity at the lighter roast is awesome, but not overwhelming like the 
really powerful Kenyas can be. I prefer the new 1800+ lot to last year's.
If you have tried the Carmen Estate in the past and were thinking about 
trying the current crop (lots of discussion on this lot recently) or you 
just plain want to toss your name in the virtual hat to see if the 
random goddess at  is smiling on you, 
please mail me OFFLIST.
Each entrant will be assigned an integer, beginning with "n" and 
incremented by "n+1". Integers will be assigned in the order in which 
entries are received until next Tuesday, June 13 at 9 PM. A winner will 
be selected shortly after 9 PM.... Bonne Chance!
cheers,
ScoTTT

53) From: Steve Hay
On 6/6/06, Scott Miller  wrote:
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I hope n=0, otherwise your sequence has gaps.  n=-1 is also troublesome. :)
-- 
Steven Hay, Math Nazi
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com

54) From: raymanowen
"n=-1 is also troublesome..." Yes, indeed- that's my personal factor.
That's why I was decrementing when I wanted to increment... ro
On 6/6/06, Steve Hay  wrote:
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-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita WurliTzer- 1976

55) From: Scott Miller
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Steve Hay wrote:
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Math Nazi? Oh, great. OK, I'll start with the math humor now:
A mathematician is asked to design a table. He first designs a table 
with no legs. Then he designs a table with infinitely many legs. He 
spend the rest of his life generalizing the results for the table with 
*N* legs (where *N* is not necessarily a natural number).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As the great mathmetician Paul Erdos said, "A mathematician is a device 
for turning coffee into theorems."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A topologist is a person who doesn't know the difference between a 
coffee cup and a doughnut.
Perhaps a cup of Komodo Decaf to end the day is what I need.
cheers,
ScoTTT

56) From: HailSeeszer
Count me in!

57) From: Scott Miller
HailSeeszer wrote:
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You are counted!
Good Luck.
cheers,
ScoTTT

58) From: Scott Miller
OK, it's time to pass along Alfred's collection of coffee related books....
The books include:
Ken Davids':
Coffee
Espresso
Home Coffee Roasting
Timothy Castle:
The Perfect Cup
Joseph Walsh:
Coffee: It's History Classification and Description
When Brett sent the books to me, he also included a pound of greens; I'm 
going to do the same and throw a pound of
Harrar Lot 30 in the box.
So, if you are reading this message, you are eligible for this tradition 
as long as you have an address to which I can ship the box.
Reply to me OFFLIST before 9 PM (GMT -5) next Wednesday, August 16 and 
you too can share in the awesome responsibility of roasting some fine 
African beans and reading informative coffee related material before 
passing along the tradition.
cheers,
ScoTTT

59) From: Brett Mason
Very nice Scott!
Somebody's got a special treat coming....
Brett
On 8/9/06, Scott Miller  wrote:
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-- 
Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

60) From: miKe mcKoffee
Agreed, great greens add-on to the Library. I may enter just for a chance
for more Horse 30:-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
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	Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:11 AM
	
	Very nice Scott!  
	Somebody's got a special treat coming....
	Brett
	
	On 8/9/06, Scott Miller  wrote: 
		OK, it's time to pass along Alfred's collection of coffee
related books....
		
		When Brett sent the books to me, he also included a pound of
greens; I'm 
		going to do the same and throw a pound of
		Harrar Lot 30 in the box.
		
		ScoTTT

61) From: jim gundlach
This is an interesting intersection of threads.  I remember I was on  
a plane making an approach for a landing at the time the list toast  
to Alfred was made.  I took some home roasted whole beans to chew- 
brew as the salute to Alfred.  I'm afraid I am still too busy to be  
able to make it through the books in a timely manner.  I hope they  
are still going around in a year or so.
      Pecan Jim
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62) From: Michael Holland
It might be helpful for some of us newbies if someone
would explain the specifics of this tradition.
It sounds wonderful and who was Alfred? 
Michael Holland
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VP, Cellarmasters
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers 
exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will 
instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more 
bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

63) From: Brett Mason
Alfred was a seasoned and wise contributor to this list until his final
days.  His favorite espresso was a martini, but he also taught considerably
about coffee.  His Library of coffee books has been working its way through
this list as a "Tradition Offering", with an added tradition that the
library gets offered up after staying at one's home for a while.  Also
contributors have been including something for the recipient to keep /
use.  I received a nice espresso flavored soap which I kept...
Many others knew Alfred more than I.  Here's a copy of one of his emails
from a while back... This is the last one he authored before he left us...
For the best tamp, give it the finger....    12/29/04
    I think i read this on  Schomer's site, but  this method works best for
me;
    As I fill the basket wih each dose from the doser,  I evenly distribute
the grounds  in the
    basket with my forefinger before  dropping the next pull from the doser.
and very lightly
    compress them with my finger.  When the basket is full, I give it one
firm tamp  with a
    Thor tamper of course.
    I really don't give a rat's behind if it's  20, 25 or 30 or 35 pounds.
    That seems to make more difference  than  the pressure of the tamp. My
Triple Play
    tamper from Les has the Danish blessing  however which could make the
    difference.This process produces the world's  greatest Caffe Mocha
Alfredo
I barely knew him, but he had sage advice and was much loved by this list.
Perhaps others would share as well?
Regards,
Brett

64) From: Les
I knew Alfred and attended his Memorial Service.  He was positive and
optimistic to the end.  He was an honest person.  I was fortunate
enough to live close to him and his lovely wife Elizabeth.  One of
God's gifts to me was the last 7 months of Alfred's life, I had a
Hospice patient only 18 miles over the hill from Alfred's house.  So,
almost every Tuesday for those 7 months I scheduled my last visit for
the day only 18 miles from Alfred's and would head over the hill for
an hour or two with Alfred. (you guys have teared me up again with
this discussion).  So, I must say I was blessed with the greatest gift
from Alfred, his friendship and love.
So what does a 74 year old guy do when he wants to try something new?
Alfred loved Espresso, so he bought the best equipment money could buy
at the time and the poor guy couldn't pull a shot!  So, he called me
on the phone and asked if one of my tampers would solve his problems.
I told him, "no."  He ordered one anyway.  However, I didn't charge
him the six dollar shipping, but delivered it personally.  Alfred
lived about 80 miles from my house.  We spent 4 hours having a ball!
It was during that visit, I was given the name, "Dr. Crema", by
Alfred.  In less than a half hour good old Alfred was pulling shots
like a champ and steaming micro foam like no body's business.  Alfred
was a former teacher and engineer.  It didn't take long for him to
catch on!  So, that should introduce you new folks to one of the most
inquisitive minds with a sense of humor that you could ever meet.
Brett, thanks for reminding me again that this is more than a coffee
list.  We not only enjoy Sweet Marias coffee, but each other.  This is
my virtual coffee shop.  Through it I have meet 40-50 wonderful people
in person, and over 100 on line.  Alchemist John and I get to see each
other almost weekly.  There are many others I wish I could see more
often.
Dr. Crema  (aka Les)
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65) From: Jared Andersson
I miss Alfred.  Jared
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66) From: Lynne
Wow. This brought a tear to my eye. Wish I had known him - goes to show -
we should all cherish friendships, people everywhere. Never know the gems
that exist in a person's being.
Cherish the memories.
Lynne
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67) From: Michael Dhabolt
Les,
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list.  We not only enjoy Sweet Marias coffee, but each other<
Thanks for bringing this important fact back to the front of our
attention.  I may have a martini in honor of Alfred this evening.
Mike (just plain)

68) From: Brett Mason
I am in - martini's tonite...
Brett
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69) From: Darliene Stanhope
All,
I am offering 1 lb of the Australia Mountain Top Estate XF, either green or
roasted.  Email me off list before noon Central time on November 6th.  I
will be placing the names of all who email in a bowl and have my supervisor
draw the winner.  I will ship priority mail to the winner.
Darliene Stanhope

70) From: Darliene Stanhope
All,
Last Chance to get in on the tradition offering.  I have 28 people in the
bowl so far.  If you email me before noon Central Time on Tuesday, November
6th, I will put your name in the bowl and have my supervisor pull out the
lucky winner.
I am offering 1 lb. of Australia Mountain Top Estate XF, either green or
roasted.
Darliene

71) From: Aaron
Darliene don't put me in the list for the offering, I just got 5 pounds 
of this coffee myself but wish to say, great offering,  that is one good 
coffee and I am sure whoever wins it is going to be very pleasantly 
suprised with it.
Thank you for keeping the tradition going
Aaron

72) From: Floyd Lozano
I'm not putting my name in either, I only got 2 lbs myself, but I
concur, I really liked this coffee.  I have soooooo much coffee, I am
trying to buy none until I get under 100lbs ;)  I guess that means at
some point I should also inventory.  Sometime...
-F
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73) From: Kris Bhatti
Well, another surprise score at the thrift store today.  This one is just a tiny one, but it's something that was just discussed here.  I found 3 of those Jello Bean molds (paid .50 for all of them).  I'm going to be selfish and keep 2 but I'll give away the third one to someone who wants to try making chocolate covered beans.  Email me by 12:00 noon PST on Saturday and I'll have my dog solve some complicated algebra problem to choose the winner.
Here's what it looks like:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item'0184261119&Category5997#ebayphotohostingKris (NOT the Kris who was in labor yesterday!)
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74) From:
I'm in! thanks!
Tim
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75) From: Lisa Carton
okeedokee...u r in!
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76) From: Eddie Dove
For you wonderful people, whom I consider my extended family, I would
like to offer up a Presto Scandinavian.
I would really like to get this to someone for Christmas.  I celebrate
Christmas, so giving something in that spirit will help make mine a
merry one; you are welcome to receive it in the spirit of any holiday
you desire.  Also, it would make my heart glad to know that it went to
someone that could immediately put it to good use.
Please send me an email OFFLIST by midnight (PST), Saturday, December
15, 2007 if you wish to be in the drawing.  On Sunday, December 16,
2007, my almost 5 year old son Wyatt will draw the recipient's name.
I will of course need your mailing address and my lovely wife Camille
will get it shipped to you quickly.
Respectfully,
Eddie
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77) From: Bigskullhead1
greetings! Please include me in the tradition offering. Happy  Christmas!!!   
John M Bonventre
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78) From: Lisa Carton
hi john----my traditon offering ended already 2 weeks ago or more...i am sorry!!!
   
  there is one going on now by eddie dove tho.....
   
  have a good day!
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79) From: Bryan Wray
note the big, capitalized, "OFF list" on contacting for the offering.  Sorry, couldn't resist.
-Bry
 
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80) From: Eddie Dove
I did receive a request from John OFFLIST.
Eddie
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81) From: Derek Bradford
Hi All,
I have an extra drum for a Gene Cafe roaster.  The drum is complete, but
there is a crack in the glass.  I received it once with a replacement
roaster here in Korea, and they sent me another one right away, so I've
never used it.  You can see pictures of the drum here:http://drumtradition.blogspot.com/It might be useful to someone, either for parts, a backup drum, or maybe
someone wants to use it to build their own roaster.
Email me off-list and I'll have one of my students draw a name in class this
coming Friday (June 20th), which is Thursday for most of you.  I'm in Korea
and I'll ship it out sometime next week.  Note that it could take weeks to
get to the winner, so please don't expect to receive it right away.
Cheers,
--Derek
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82) From: Jim Gundlach
I have just received the 250 gr. of Panama Esmeralda Especial that Ed  
Bourgeois offered in the recent tradition and to avoid becoming a  
delinquent tradition participant, I now offer up the following:  A  
stainless canning funnel that is a perfect fit for a 58mm  
portafilter.  I use one to prevent the loss of ground coffee and  
corresponding mess in making the move from grinder to portafilter.   
This one has about a half inch lip that I found caused too much  
disruption of the coffee when it was removed from the portafilter so I  
trimmed the one I use back to about  an 1/8 inch lip.  I am very happy  
with how it works now and If the winner so desires, I will trim theirs  
back in the same way.
To enter just forward this message back to me by 5:00 central time  
Friday the 15th.   I will announce the winner and ask for shipping  
information soon after.
     pecan jim
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83) From: Barry Luterman
Anyone with a Mazzer will appreciatr this offering.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_BEnIr07G4On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Jim Gundlach  wrote:
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84) From: Jim Gundlach
Thanks Barry, I just watched it, and that looks exactly like the  
funnel I am offering.  I would note that instead of knocking the  
portafilter and funnel around like they do, I use a dissecting needle  
to stir any lumps out and I can use the funnel to scrape off any extra  
grounds before tamping.
        pecan jim
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85) From: Barry Luterman
Been using mine with a Thor Ridgeline Tamper for over a year with
beautiful results. Even gave up using my naked PF. Naked PF is like
training wheels on a bike. Would one offer training wheels to Lance
Armstrong?
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86) From: Robert Flanery
Actually, that would be a pretty good practical joke.
Good thing he is not my neighbor.  I am known for doing things like that...
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87) From: Robert Flanery
Actually, that would be a pretty good practical joke.
Good thing he is not my neighbor.  I am known for doing things like that...
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88) From: Robert Flanery
Actually, that would be a pretty good practical joke.
Good thing he is not my neighbor.  I am known for doing things like that...
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89) From: miKe mcKoffee
I'd say said tamper like using training wheels not that a bottomless PF is
using training wheels. Had this discussion before. Knitting needles,
chopsticks etc. another form of training wheels. Would one offer a tamper
with training wheels or a funnel or chopsticks etc. to any World Class
barista? Please. I've never needed 'em and still don't. Not saying I'm even
close to a World Class barista, just saying never felt the need to learn and
use other than good solid techniques as I observed World Class barista using
from the git go when I first got a Silvia many many moons ago. 
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90) From: Alchemist John
This is something I have been thinking on, and still am unsure of my 
position.  I have been using a Ridgeline and adore the results.  Does 
that mean my technique needs work?  Maybe, maybe not.  But over and 
over the CUP we say is what is important, not necessarily how you get 
there.  Jumping into the middle of your discussion on knitting 
needles, chopsticks, flat blades etc (to swipe I assume), I have 
tried those too, but those didn't improve the cup, so I left them as 
is (i.e. my hand).  I don't see any problem with using a 
ridgeline.  It's true perpendicular tamp is what it is 
providing.  Would you look down on a carpenter for the right tool 
(like a speed square) instead of eyeing it?  I doubt it.  Again, I am 
not sure where I stand on this fully, and I kind of see where you are 
coming from, but I don't think I see anything wrong with using a tool 
to make your shot better.
At 18:52 8/11/2008, you wrote:
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91) From: Barry Luterman
Years ago there was a graph in Scientific American of man's running
ability and a Saber Tooth Tigers running ability. Man was supper. Then
they had a graph of a man on a bicycle against the tiger. Man beat
tiger. If we consider language as a tool man far outstrips the tiger.
I can just envision two cavemen talking. "You know ,Klem, if I rub
these two sticks together I can make a fire and the Saber Tooth tiger
does not attack" The second cave man responds;" If you sharpen one of
those sticks you can kill the Tiger with it."Finally, a third cave man
interjects;"Have you guys considered publishing your data?"
The bottom line is when was the last time anyone saw a Saber Tooth
Tiger? Don't knock tools. They made us what we are and as far as the
Ridgeline make us better Batista's.
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92) From: Sandy Andina
But do they make us better Castros?
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93) From: miKe mcKoffee
I guess I should not say anything about the Ridgeline since in reality I
haven't used one. Yet I don't see how it can "assure" an "even"
perpendicular tamp when the ridge doesn't come into play until the end of
the tamp when it contacts the basket. IF the tamp is begun uneven, not being
perpendicular, then "corrected" at the end of the tamp by the Ridgeline
hitting the basket lip that could not in my experience be as good at
preserving the distribution as a perpendicular tamp from the beginning.
Using the god given tools of three fingers in a triangle simultaneously
touching the tamper piston and basket lip at the beginning of the tamp
enables lining up the tamper perpendicularly at the beginning of the tamp. 
I would like to try a corian tamper piston sometime, I never did like the
feel of any of the wood piston Thors on the grinds compared to very smooth
hard SS. 
BTW, I didn't mention a "flat blade" though I did at one time use one after
watching Dr Joshuma and his staff use tongue depressors many years ago. But
I too have used my finger for the PF sweep for years.
My REAL main reason for the reply was Barry's continued insistence using a
bottomless PF is "training wheels". Go ahead pull countless shots day in and
day out every day for months with bottomless PF's in a busy environment,
with very very seldom any channeling, and come back and tell me again. You
SEE the shot, you have nothing interfering with the crema's path to the cup,
you can keep your heavily used PF's clean very quickly and easily. Shot
build problems easily and immediately seen. Oh and tamping with a bottomless
PF much easier to repeatedly align for perpendicular tamp especially when
pulling shots rapidly back to back to back to back.
A good deal of my ability to work fast in the Kafe I attribute to learning
and using sound professional techniques at home from the git go instead of
crutches.
OTOH I'm really not against anyone using whatever method they need that
floats their boat to achieve a stellar shot be it WDT with a knitting
needle, chopsticks or whatever. I simply chose to follow the lead of top
professionals when I began learning and believe good consistent results can
be achieved without convoluted methods.
Hey, some shops even use the LM Swift grinder with it's built in self
tamping until their baristi learn to tamp properly, some use it forever. 
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94) From: Barry Luterman
My point simply is that everything mentioned is a tool. The Naked PF
is a learning device. In addition, in my opinion,the e-61 group head
delivers a better shot with the additional mass of a regular PF as
opposed to the lighter smaller Naked PF
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95) From: Jack M. Rogers
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I was off the list for a while...
Can you give us the specifics on this canning funnel?  Where did it come from, what part number, price, etc.?
Thanks.
Jack

96) From: Jim Gundlach
Jack,
       I bought a couple of these well over a year ago.  I picked them  
up at a local feed and seed store that also sold canning supplies.  I  
had a inch/metric tape measure and as I recall it was describes as 2  
1/4 inch hole and it came in just a touch under 58mm so I bought them  
and after trimming it down, it worked fine.  Saves a lot of lost  
coffee from the Major and cut down on the complaints about the mess by  
my wife.
       jim
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97) From: Brian Kamnetz
If you google "canning funnel" you will come up with a lot of them.
Brian
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98) From: Robert Yoder
Dear Jim,
 =
The funnel arrived today, in perfect shape, trimmed to perfection, and comp=
lete with wonderful, eponymous packing material.  It fits my MMini and the =
Faema portafilter perfectly and is a wonderful addition!  Thanks from the b=
ottom of my heart and the top of the portafilter!
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Happily grinding,
 =
robert yoder
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99) From: Jim Gundlach
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100) From: Randy
I have a Presto Scandinavian coffee maker that I bought a couple of 
years ago but never used.  Un-boxed and tried it a couple of days ago, 
and drip just isn't for me.  Works perfectly.
All I ask is for you to pay shipping, which I calculated on UPS to be 
around $15.
We can do PayPal if you have an account, or just send me a check.
E-mail me at  randyr5  if you want it.
Thanks...
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101) From: John Mac
Randy,
Just sent you an e-mail.
John
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102) From: Vicki Smith
I'm not sure that is really a *tradition* as they are, ummm, 
traditionally at no cost to the winner, but $15 for this pot sounds like 
a good deal for someone. There is also usually a time set for a blind 
draw, etc.
I know there are folks on the list that have the complete tradition 
history saved somewhere. I'd be interested in reading it again. My 
archive search didn't turn it up--though I am sure it is in there 
amongst the gazillion other posts that turned up in my search.
vicki
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104) From: Randy
Scandinavian is gone.  Thanks...
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105) From: Vicki Smith
I know that when I wanted to enter a tradition, I wrote off list to the 
person and offered to pay the postage, as I am in Canada. He replied 
that art of the Tradition was that it was absolutely no cost to the 
winner. For that reason, I haven't entered any--thinking that it is just 
beyond too far to expect anyone to have to take on the cost and hassle 
of mailing things here.
If postage is generally paid, it is news to me, and I stand corrected.
v
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106) From: Lynne
When I had my Untraditional Tradition some months ago (for my homemade
biscotti), I asked that the recipient(s) pay for the postage, as I wasn't
able (may never be able, ha) even to afford paying postage.
I have no shame in admitting my poverty, lol. But seriously, times are
getting hard for many, and this may be a way for others to take part in a
tradition (if the rules were made up originally... then they should be able
to be adjusted...)
Would think the postage would fluctuate according to distance from the
giver... biscotti can be put in a flat rate box, so that's what I was going
to do, until a kind member offered to pay for the shipping - so we had a
Combination Duo Untraditional Tradition...
it's enough to make my brain hurt...
Lynne
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107) From: Derek Bradford
I paid shipping on my last tradition because it was coming from Korea.
Otherwise I think I'd expect to pay the few dollars it generally costs; if
it's going to be something expensive then I'd do it differently.  But
different situations call for different solutions, and I wouldn't have any
trouble paying shipping either way.
--Derek
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108) From: Bob Hazen
Seems to me the list should cut Randy some slack.  I haven't seen him post 
before, perhaps he's a lurker, perhaps he's brand new.  Anyway, it seems 
that he used the word "tradition" for a simple gift to the first responder. 
He had something to give away if someone else wanted to pay the postage.  I 
think that's a fine and generous gesture.  I hope we haven't chased him away 
by obsessing about the wording of his generous offer.
Bob

109) From: Lynne
I think it's cool - hope we haven't chased you away, Randy!!
:D
Lynne
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110) From: Vicki Smith
I don't disagree. I also recognized his relative newness, so I was 
trying (pretty awkwardly, it seems) to differentiate between his very 
nice and generous offer and what it seems to me that we call a 
Tradition, which has a history, value, and more or less particular form.
Giving something very nice away to the first person who asks for it is a 
wonderful and generous thing--with or without the postage issue.
Vicki
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111) From: Ken B
Hear, hear Bob! 
We need to realize that not everyone knows all the 'correct' 
definitions, whether they lurk or not.  Many 'old timers' (list wise, 
not age wise) think everyone knows through osmosis or something. ;-)  I 
try to convey my thoughts clearly, but at times I may use a 'reserved' 
word without understanding it's meaning, just as many might 
misunderstand my meaning in the words I use.  I have been on the list 
for a bit over a year, but I still have much to learn.  I admit up front 
my ignorance, but I also am reaching a point of not sharing my 
experiences because it seems that some folks here wish to 'correct' 
instead of inform and teach.
Just my two cents.  This is NOT meant to start a flame war, so please 
don't take it that way.  It is a simple observation from a newbie (to 
the list).  However, I do know I am not the only person who feels this 
way, so take it for what it is worth, if anything.
Best Regards,
Ken B
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112) From: Randy
Hi, I don't post a lot but have been buying greens from Tom for many 
years, starting back when he was based in Ohio.  Maybe I shouldn't have 
called it "Tradition" but I know that I will not use it and figured 
someone here might want it.  
Believe me, I'm not making a dime on the shipping cost. In fact, it will 
cost a bit more than I asked for, but that's OK.  Next time (if there is 
one) I will call it "Free + Shipping" or something like that if I ask 
the receiver to pay the shipping cost. 
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113) From: Jim Gundlach
The tradition started by having the recipient pay the shipping then we  
decided that that was just an additional hassle because a winner was  
expected to give up a tradition it made sense to make it easier to pay  
the shipping on the offer rather than the shipping on the item  
received.  At that time we suggested that foreign winners should be  
willing to pay the difference between what a within the USA shipment  
would cost and what it cost to send the item to their non-USA  
address.  We also suggested that if someone wanted to offer up  
something extra heavy like a full sized grinder or an espresso machine  
it would be appropriate for the winner to pay the shipping.
I would suggest the absence of a random drawing on the latest offering  
takes it out of the spirit of a tradition and that the person who  
spoke up first should not be expected to offer up something else.  The  
idea of allowing everyone interested enter the pool and randomly  
selecting from that pool is a key part of how the tradition helps to  
build community among the list members.
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114) From: raymanowen
"Next time (if there is one) I will call it "Free"
Or, Free (+S/H) and sign up for 1year's autoship,
as in lots of the parc internet advertising... -ro
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115) From: Robert Yoder
Greetings, Glorious Group,
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I wish to offer some cotton draw-string bags for green coffee as a Traditio=
n.  The lot consists in 2 SM Logo 5 lb, 4 SM Logo and 8 plain (no Logo) 2 l=
b, and 3 plain (no Logo) 1 lb.  All are in essentially new condtion.
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hod.
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116) From: Ken B
BLACK FRIDAY DEAL:  Free greens!!! :-D
I was just going through my stash, and I have a LOT of good beans that I
will probably never roast.  I am too interested in trying new coffees to
just stop buying, so I end up with more than I can possibly roast in the
iR2.  I have two shelves in my kitchen cabinet crammed full of greens.
Here is what I have for this tradition:
1) ~ 4 lb Indonesia Flores "Jade"
2) ~ 3 lb Sumatra Classic Mendheling
3) 2 lb Sumatra Lintong Nihuta KVW decaf
4) 2 lb Papua New Guinea Kimel WP decaf
5) 2 ea 2 lb Papua New Guinea AA Maloolaba (yes, I have two of these)
6) ~ 1.5 lb Columbia Perros Bravos de Huila 3 star
7) ~ 1.5 lb El Salvador Mataplapa Estate Peaberry
8) 5 lb El Salvador Matalapa Estate
~ means approximately (may be more/less than stated)
various of 1/4 - 3/4 lb will be put in as fillers until I run out.
So, here are the rules of this tradition:
Email me OFF LIST with your two (2) primary choices, and with two (2)
alternative choices, and your *snail mail address*.
I will reserve these on a first-come, you get it basis, until such time
as it is all gone, when I will inform the list.  Please limit your 
choice to 7 lbs MAX for your primary and 7 lbs for your alternate 
choices.  I will ship these to you, free of charge, via Fed Ex ground if 
you live in the lower 48.  If you live outside of the USA, or in Hawaii 
or Alaska, you will need to arrange and pay for shipping. (FedEx 
shipping number)  We use FedEx at work, so this is the easiest way for 
me to ship.
How it works:
respondent A asks for the Jade and Columbian
respondent B asks for the Jade and El Salvador Peaberry with an 
alternate including Matalapa Estate
respondent C asks for the Jade and Columbian with an alternate of the
Matalapa Estate and Peaberry
respondent D asks for the Mendheling and Decaf Nihuta,
A, B and D will get coffee.  C is out of luck until next time.
A will get Jade and Columbia de Huila
B will get El Salvador Estate and Estate Peaberry
C will get nothing as the choices made are already reserved
D will get Mendheling and 2 lb Nihuta
Your address will only be used for the tradition, and will be deleted
after it is complete.
Entries WITHOUT addresses will not be considered.
Entries OVER 7 lbs max for primary or secondary choices will not be
considered.
The way I figure this is that at least 4 people will win, and up to 7 
may win.  Good luck!
Best Regards,
Ken B
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117) From: Lynne Biziewski
Hey, Ken - what a sweet deal! (and no insane crowds, too)
Throw my name into the hat - can I leave it for you to choose? (I don't  
like 'thin'
coffees - only tasted one fr. SM's in all the time I've roasted that was  
too thin
for me - or coffee that's has too much acidity. Can't think straight today  
- this
was a TOUGH week!
Lynne
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118) From: Lynne Biziewski
argghh! that was SUPPOSED to be offlist...
Lynne (who is fuzzy-brained from Thanksgiving cooking and  
grandson-watching..
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119) From: Ken B
Wow!  That did not take long!  As of 5:08, they are all gone.  Thanks 
for playing everyone.  I guess free greens are a GOOD doorbuster 
special. ;-)
Winners are:
Columbian and PNG Maloolaba - John In Nor Cal
El Salvador Estate, PNG Maloolaba - Wes Tyler
Indonesia Flores "Jade", PNG Kimel WP decaf - Lynne
Sumatra Classic Mendheling, Sumatra Lintong Nihuta KVW decaf
El Salvador Mataplapa Estate Peaberry - Ed Bourgeois
It took a total of 52 minutes for someone to pick every one.  I will 
send these out via Fed Ex Ground Monday.  Enjoy all!
Best Regards,
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120) From: RZettle
Thanks again for the offering
 
Russ
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121) From: Ken B
Oops...the winner of the Sumatra Mendheling and Lintong decaf was 
Stephen Barber. 
Best Regards,
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122) From: Lynne
Thanks so much for your kind generosity, Ken!
Lynne
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123) From: Edward Bourgeois
Thanks Ken!!!!!!!!
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124) From: Ken B
FedEx tracking number: 596141410001125
Enjoy!
Ken B
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125) From: Ken B
Sorry folks...that was supposed to be off list.
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126) From: John A C Despres
Well, we'll all know when it arrives...
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127) From: Darliene Stanhope
All,
In the spirit of the tradition offering.  I would like to offer up 1 lb. of
Kenya Thika Chania - French Mission Cultivar.
Email me off list by Saturday, December 20th at 5:00 pm Central Time with
your snail mail address.
I will put all of the names on strips of paper that will be crumpled up and
placed in my Santa hat and the first piece of paper that Turbo Taz the
Wonder Kitten pulls out of the hat is the winner.
Good Luck and thanks John.
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128) From: Darliene Stanhope
Forgot to put my email address:  darlienestanhope
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129) From: Steve Barber
Since I was a lucky winner of some of Ken B's greens that he offered as a tradition a while back, I am going to keep it going. So, in true tradition fashion I am offering three replacement cloth filters for a Yama Vac-Pot. I think they will probably fit other makes as well. Anyhow, if you are interested contact me offlist with your mailing address. I will draw the winner on Cristmas Eve sometime in the afternoon.
Good luck,
Steve
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130) From: Steve Barber
I am not sure that this got out the other day....I have had no takers. I
have three cloth replacement filters for a Yama Vac-Pot. Contact me offlist
with your name and address and I will draw the lucky winner on Christmas
Eve.
Thanks,
Steve
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131) From: John A C Despres
Steve, If you include a Yama Vac-Pot, I'm in! But alas, I won't enter.
If I had one, I would!
John
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132) From: Steve Barber
Sorry John...I'm keeping my Yama
Steve
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133) From: John A C Despres
Ok. It was worth he try.
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134) From: Ken B
I have 3 K type thermocouples that I would like to offer for those who 
use thermocouples on your roaster.  With the Hot Top, I do not need to 
hold onto 5 at a time, so I think I will allow them to go where they 
will be used.
They are 24 gauge PFA thermocouples, 36" long, from Omega and hold up to 
the rigors of roasting in the IR2 quite well compared to glass insulated 
ones.
To enter:
Send me your snail mail address off list with Thermocouple Tradition in 
the subject line.  I will choose the winner by putting all names entered 
in a box. The name pulled by Ms E (my cat) will be the winner.  I will 
announce the winner on the evening of Tuesday, December 30th and send 
them via USPS.
Best Regards,
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135) From: Benjamin VerHage
My stash is bigger than I want it to be right now (I want to order some new beans!), so I decided to offer up some green to the list. The offer is for 1# of Ethiopia Koratie WP, and 1# of the DP Koratie. I ordered a bunch of both when they were first available and have enjoyed them immensely.
If you are interested, send an email to benjaminverhage at yahoo dot com with your name and address. Please use "tradition offering" as the subject line. Offer is open until Wednesday 10:00AM EST at which time I'll think of a clever way to pick the winner. Good luck everybody!
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136) From: Benjamin VerHage
All the entries are in and the lucky winner by random number generator is Dennis True. Congrats! I decided to do a runner up for .75# of the DP and that winner is Dave. Congrats to both!
Ben
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Subject: [Homeroast] tradition offering
My stash is bigger than I want it to be right now (I want to order some new beans!), so I decided to offer up some green to the list. The offer is for 1# of Ethiopia Koratie WP, and 1# of the DP Koratie. I ordered a bunch of both when they were first available and have enjoyed them immensely.
If you are interested, send an email to benjaminverhage at yahoo dot com with your name and address. Please use "tradition offering" as the subject line. Offer is open until Wednesday 10:00AM EST at which time I'll think of a clever way to pick the winner. Good luck everybody!
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137) From: Darliene Stanhope
Congratz Dennis and Dave!!!
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138) From: dennis true
WOW!!!!
THANK YOU!!
Dennis
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139) From: Dave
Thanks Ben! I'm definitely looking forward to trying this coffee.
Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
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140) From: Dave
I thought I already said thanks, but gmail sems to be doing something
weird... So once again:
Thanks so much, I'm really looking forward to trying this. I was
disappointed to have missed it before.
Dave
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141) From: slinkster
I find myself in possession of three Chemex pourover carafes, all of 
which I have found at thrift stores, none of which I paid more than a 
few dollars for.
In the interest of freeing up a bit of cabinet space I would like to 
send one of the larger carafes to a new home.  To that end please send 
me an off-list email with CHEMEX in the subject.  Numbers will be 
assigned to each person as email arrives.  On Monday I will have my son 
draw a number from a hat and will notify the lucky winner off-list.
Shipping is on me.
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142) From: John A C Despres
I'm set on Chemex supplies, but that's a very nice offer! Thanks for
sharing.
John
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143) From: John A C Despres
Good afternoon!
Once again it's time to offer up two of this year's limited edition coffee
cups to two separate members. These cups are designed by Rita Shields and
myself. Well, Rita and I choose the cup and the stamp is designed and made
by me. This year's stamp is a multi-pointed star cut in brass and gently
pressed into the clay before firing by Rita.
I commission these cups strictly as gifts and give most of them away. I keep
a few for myself and none are for sale - there isn't enough money to buy
one. Please don't ask to purchase one.
Once I get my log-in sorted out on the Sweet Maria's gallery page, I'll post
a picture of the two cups going in the mail.
So how do I get in on this fabulous offer, you may ask. It's simple! Just
e-mail me OFF LIST johndespres and state your interest. See?
Simple. I'll draw two names from my antique Kaffee Hag coffee can and will
announce the winners the evening of Dec 20.
To recap:
2 limited edition cups
Not for sale
2 winners
Email me off-list before 6 PM Eastern time
Wait until the evening of Monday December 20 for the big announcement
Sometime the week preceding Christmas, I'll send the cups.
If anyone has a question, please ask!
Good luck!
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144) From: John A C Despres
The cups may be seen here at my Picassa site:
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145) From: John A C Despres
6 PM Monday, Dec 20 is the deadline. Not 6 PM yesterday, Thursday...
Sorry about that
John.
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146) From: Scott Thile
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They're beautiful, John! Hope I'm one of the fortunate...
Thanks for keeping this wonderful tradition alive.
Whirley Pop Scott (at least for now...)
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147) From: Jon Noble
I too was a winner of one of John's coffee cups last season. Thank you again John for these wonderful gifts to the list. Mine is used daily!
Jon
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148) From: Jim Couch
Went and looked and they are really pretty and look to be shaped along the
lines of the one I am trying to replace. All I have right now are more like
small bowls with handles. hold 16 .oz but too much surface area loses it's
heat *TOO* fast. My special cup was given to me by a co-worker years
ago.....somethin msta whacked it cause it has a hairline fracture all of a
sudden.....
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:22 PM, John A C Despres wrote:
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"Idiots are so much fun! That's why every village either has one or wants
one!"
G. House MD.
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149) From: John A C Despres
Okay, then!
Lessee here... 51 entries. I'm humbled and more than a little pleased with
the response!
Given the number of entries, I'm adding one more cup to the lottery, meaning
three winners will be chosen.
My computer says it's 6:02, so opportunity for entries is over.
I'll draw names shorty. Good luck every one!
This is fun!
John
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150) From: Paul Jolly
I've mostly lurked here for the past 4-5 years, but back when I was a regular I 
read many a post by Pecan Jim (fascinated by his & Charlie's wood-fired roasting 
methods) and participated in more than a few Tradition offerings.  I haven't 
gotten anything in years; having no need for more stuff, I'm also trying to 
downsize what I do have.  But Jim's point is well-taken - this tradition is a 
good thing.  Since I quit making espresso at home, I've got a couple espresso 
items to pass on.  The first are these:
Two 2.5oz brushed stainless espresso cups w/saucers.  Just like the ones Tom & 
Maria carry 
http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/miscellaneous/cups/espresso-cup-2-5-oz-ss-round-handle.html) but used.  Clean, no dents, and in very good condition.
Email me off list (pauljolly65 at yahoo.com) with "espresso cups" in the subject 
line & I'll put your name in the knockbox.  Drawing is at noon PST on Wednesday, 
12/29!
Cheers,
Paul
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151) From: miKe mcKoffee
Are those the same pair SS demi's I offered as a Tradition Offering years
ago!? If so yes they'd be just like the ones offered by SM, that's where I
bought 'em! (I could check the archives but why bother, not really
important, just curious...)
Slave to the Bean  miKe mcKoffee
www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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