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Topic: "Fresh" coffee (14 msgs / 389 lines)
1) From: Randy Roy
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There's a chain of coffee shops in the 
Eastern/Midwest U.S. named Caribou Coffee.  They have a cardboard sleeve 
that they slip over their coffee cups so that it is not too hot to 
handle.  On the sleeve is this:
"The coffee in your beverage was roasted within the 
last 21 days.  Guaranteed."

2) From: miKe mcKoffee

3) From: Tim Jolicoeur
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call that fresh?
Best Regards,
Tim Jolicoeur

4) From: Steven Van Dyke
Compare it to most office coffee.  The Folgers plant that produces those
little vacuum packs is literally right across the street from the building I
work in (a while back they moved pretty much all of that production to here
in KC).  Now folks here know that vacuuming fresh roasted coffee results in
little pillows due to outgassing.  Someone found out Folger's secret for
nice tight vacuum packs: they 'rest' the coffee for a while (months,
literally) before packing it.
So to sum up, within the last 21 days is reasonably fresh, all things
Steve :->
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5) From: Lissa
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 01:21, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
I haven't had a cup of coffee from Caribou yet that was up to Starbucks
quality, even.  They roast lighter, the coffees I've had tasted grassy
or acidy, and they brew weak.  I suspect the last is their biggest
Be well,
To be a good civil libertarian is to spend one's life in a fairly 
constant state of alarm, which leaves the group somewhat frazzled.
Molly Ivins, "Fish or Cut Bait"

6) From: Ben Treichel
IMHO, they are much better than starbucks.
Steven Van Dyke wrote:

7) From: David Westebbe
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8) From: David Westebbe
Wow!  THAT good?  ;)

9) From: Dan Bollinger
That's my experience as well. The coffee tastes fresher than what you get
elsewhere. The fact that they are tracking dates means they have a close
relationship with their roaster, a sign that they are quality conscious.
Besides their Caribou blend, they serve origin coffees, too. Of all the
coffee chains, Caribou Coffee is my favorite.
building I

10) From: Phil Jordan
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:18:48 -0400, Ben Treichel wrote
Unless Charbux are better in the US than in the UK, that really is damning 
with faint praise!

11) From: miKe mcKoffee

12) From: steve_w
Quoting Lissa :
Hmm... I haven't noticed that myself.  They tend to keep three pots
of drip coffee brewed, in a "medium roast", "dark roast" and "decaf"
style, varying the blends from day to day and marking what they were
on a chalkboard.  I haven't been a regular customer since I started
home roasting but I have bought the occasional cup, and it's been
decent coffee.  My main complaint with their drip coffee is that
they have too many non-descript house blends (Daybreak?  Discovery
Blend? Fireside Blend?). Don't know what they use in their espresso
and I haven't tried it with my recently educated palate.
My one bad experience was one time at the airport, where they listed
Sumatra on the chalkboard as one of the choices, but when I asked for
a cup they discovered it was out and refused to brew any more.  
Here in Minneapolis there is an upstart coffee chain called Dunn Bros.
that goes much further in promoting freshness, with in-store roasters
prominently displayed along with sacks of green beans and roast dates
on all the roasted coffee dispensers.  The roast dates are usually only
1-3 days ago at my local store, though I've seen 4-7 day old coffee for
sale at one of their mall kiosks.  They even use standard SCAA roast
terminology (City, Full City, Vienna, etc) on their roasted coffee,
and only stock single origin varietals and an espresso blend, rather
than flavored coffees or colorfully named house blends.  I'm not
entirely sure the MN public is ready for them yet.  Every time I
visit my local store I wonder if they're really moving all the coffee
in their bins in 3 days or less, or what happens to the 4 day old stuff.
Steve Wall

13) From: Barbara Greenspon
I'm also in Minneapolis and was the 3rd or 4th customer at the original 
Caribou.  At that time, Starbucks wasn't even here yet, and it was 
clear that Caribou wanted to be a different kind of setup.  They roast 
their own beans in a warehouse in downtown Minneapolis.  I'm not sure 
what they do in their other locations (Ohio, NC, etc.).
In the early days, their coffee was fantastic.  After a while (several 
years) they were purchased by some out of town company, and while they 
still are very good (for a chain, in my opinion), they've gone way down 
I agree that Dunn Brother's is great.  Their coffee is always fresh, 
their shops less "corporate" and more homey, they have free computer 
wireless connections, and they welcome long visits.  I hope they don't 
grow too big.  They were in Saint Paul for many years before "growing".
I've only been home roasting for about a month, and I can't imagine 
buying when I can brew such good stuff on my own!  But I do miss visits 
to Dunn Brothers'.  Oh, well.  I'd rather be a roaster.
But again, Caribou is still my favorite of the LARGE chains.
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 01:27  PM, steve_w wrote:

14) From: Randy Roy
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Thank you, David.  That's the point I was 
trying to get across.  It was my feeble attempt at being 

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