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Topic: Adjustable Shutoff Bodum Ibis? (10 msgs / 306 lines)
1) From: George Silver
I have been looking at the Bodum Ibis electric kettle (1.7 litre 
model) and wondering if
you can adjust the thermostat so that it will cut off at say 208 
degrees, instead of
at boiling?
Or does someone else make an electric kettle that would heat water up 
to coffee brewing temperature
or slightly above and then turn itself off?  An adjustable cutoff in 
the range 195 d.  to  212 d. would be nice.
--George

2) From: Rich Adams
I bought the curl for the speed and cordlessness during the cross country
cruiser treks, looks tough to get into to tweak.
I don't know, there might be greater consistency in what you are trying to
accomplish with a machine that brings water to a boil and then shuts off.
The temp reached will be the same each time.   You also lose heat to the
item you are pouring into.
West Bend made a metal "food" pot thingie that did well with water that had
an adjustable thermostat.  But it did not shut off, just kept it at the set
temp.  Similar to:http://www.celebritycookware.com/4071w.htmlRespectfully,
Rich Adams

3) From: Brian Hyde
The Zojirushi (sp?) hot pots work well. They are of course designed for 
tea, but I believe they have multiple temperature settings and are well 
insulated to stay on all day. Just in case you are trembling from need 
of a fix.
George Silver wrote:
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee

5) From: Rick Farris
Or you could move someplace with an altitude of, say, 4500'.  Water
boils here at 206°...
-- Rick

6) From: Chuck the AV-Geek
I just bought one of these for my cubicle/office.
Its the bottom one.http://www.chefschoice.com/page2e.htmlIt has a neat little table explaining how to get the perfect brew temp.  I
tested it, and its accurate on mine.
      Chef'sChoice® French Press-Plus®
      Water Temperature After Boil, Coffee Cycle F
      (Elapsed Time After Steam Switch Snaps Off)
      Minutes Temperature
        0   212
      Insert coffee & stir into water
        1   208
        2   205
        4   203
        5   199
I'm having a hard time finding a large replacement screen for it, but the
one it comes with isn't that horrible.
-Chuck
Making co-workers envious one pot at a time
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7) From: rev mark gilstrap
From: "George Silver" 
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As I posted on the 23rd, the Zojirishi Micom 2.2 L 40W hotpot 
(with reboil if you want boiling hot water) is great.  I plug it in 
each morning when I start my espresso and when my wife gets 
up, all she has to do is put a mug-top filter in place under the 
spout and push the air pump to start brewing with microprocessor 
controlled 208 degrree water.
Zojirishi makes more expensive models that have adjustable 
set points, as does Sanyo I believe, and others.   I find 208 
(and boiling) to be the only thing we need for our drip coffee.  
"marvelously excess-featured (things like a swivel base, and
magnetic self plugging cord connector, not to mention using a
microprocessor to boil water?) appliance"
I'm still facinated by the simplicity and safe function of that 
magnetic appliance cord.  It is so elegant! and you should 
never accidentally pull the pot off by snagging the cord, 
since it will unplug with less force than required to move the 
mass of the pot.  Maybe I'm easily impressed by good 
engineering (maybe it has something to do with working 
for GM where such elegance was a rarity).
Sam's club www.samsclub.com sells the 2.2 L CW-PZ22 
model for $59.47 (search on Zojirishi to find it on the site)

8) From: miKe mcKoffee

9) From: George Silver
At 5:31 PM -0500 10/2/03, Rich Adams wrote:
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Thanks, Rich.  This looks like it might be just what I'm looking for.
--George

10) From: George Silver
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 -->Re: +Adjustable Shutoff Bodum
Ibis?
At 3:57 PM -0700 10/2/03, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
I have an Ibis, not user adjustable cutoff. Maybe hackable but I'm not
going
there, don't feel the need. I just wait 30sec or so after shutoff
before
pouring into Press pot. (I should  accurately check how long at
room temp.
to come down to 205°f... think I did when I first got it, but been a
while
and don't use it that often) Love the cordless feature. (have a corded
Rival
in the garage, hey, future traditions
offering!)
For some time I have been bothered by the likely imprecision of
the many instructions
I have seen that say, "Let the water boil, remove the kettle
from the heat, wait several seconds
and then pour."  This seemed suspicious to me because
some tests I did with my tea kettle--a
stainless steel, roughly conical kettle with a very broad base,
containing 40 fl. oz. of water--indicated the following cooling
rate.
0'
00"          0 
24           0  50  
       
       
       
          
210
2 
00           2 
34           3 
04           3 
41           4 
46           5 
20           . . .
7'
34"          
Assuming that the water dropped a couple of degrees when it was
poured into my Mellita One Cup
filter with 15g of coffee in it sitting on a 12-13 oz cup, I
figured out I'd have to wait 3+ minutes
till it was okay to pour. That seems like an eternity
early in the morning.
Since I was spending a good bit of time with a thermometer stuck
in the spout of my tea kettle adjusting the temperature, I thought a
pot/kettle with an adjustable thermostat might be just the ticket to
give me a stress-free morning.  (Also I wanted to stop my wife
calling me a compulsive
geek when I went through these temperature adjustments.)
Then I thought, "Well, I don't really know just how
much heat I lose when I pour into the Melitta.  Perhaps I should
check that."  I did and discovered that with my setup (and
using a very quick reacting bead thermometer on my digital voltmeter)
that I lost 6 not 2 degrees when I poured.
Backtracking in the above table, that meant that to get 205
degrees in the Melitta, I only had to
wait 24 seconds or thereabouts.   This I am happy to
do.
In sum, I think I have confirmed the conventional wisdom about
taking the kettle off the boil, waiting about half a minute, and then
pouring--exactly what you do.   Thus, I have decided
that I won't spring for any sort of expensive thermostatic pitcher. 
Although there IS a 2 litre Zojirushi Hot Pot someone else sent me
information about that holds the water at 208 degrees automatically
and also handles chlorine smells and descaling automatically.  It
would be just the ticket for someone who wanted to hit their coffee
grounds with  202 degree water anytime they chose.
Thanks all, for reading this and for the helpful
suggestions.
--George  (whose wife is probably right when she thinks he's
a geek.)


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