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Topic: RK Drum (99 msgs / 2675 lines)
1) From: rnkyle
Just a note. Second production run is complete. I never thought it would
have such wide spread popularity.
Thanks
Ron Kyle
rkdrums
Roasting drums for gas grillshttp://rnk10.tripod.com

2) From: Ron Kyle
John I just got home from work and was amazed to the replies on the list to
your questions . Let me get done with supper and I will try to read all of
them and answer as many as I can, I see from reading some that you have
already received some good advise.
RK

3) From: John Abbott
This is one of the most delightful aspects of this list.  Folks are
truly brilliant and willing to share.  there's only one other community
I've found that's like that - Open Source!
John - loving live and looking for my ski mask.
On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 15:48, Ron Kyle wrote:
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4) From: Lesley Albjerg
The RK is out on the deck "seasoning."  I was going to wait until the morning, but I might just do my first one pound roast tonight!  The RK is really sweet.  Let's see, all that off topic roasting stuff has lead me to "I'll never drink espresso" to enjoying a very nice Expobar and a continue exploration of extraction under pressure.  The off topics have lead to some very special friends;  a Coffee related side business, Thor Tamper, and a few side comments lead to the Pacific Northwest Gathering!  
 
My wife's comment when she left with my sons for the weekend was, "and this is saving money!"  She had a smile on her face.
 
Les

5) From: Lesley Albjerg
I just finished my first 1 pound roast!  I roasted a Panama that didn't come from Tom.  I didn't want to chance anything special in the stash!   First crack hit at 16 min.  Finished roast at  18 min.  Cooled over my big fan!  A great looking city roast!  I am going to have to do some work on my hood, but all said and done, it was a pretty straight forward roast.  The instructions Ron includes are excellent.  This baby is built to last!  Easy to clean, no complicated on-off action to maintain a profile!  I can't wait to start playing with some profiles.
 
Les

6) From: GHHOLT
Sounds like your roast are right on time. I've roasted about 15#s in my RK Drum. The instruction were excellent.I'm loving being able to do larger batches then I could in my Hot Top. I hope to order Ron's 56 RPM Gear motor on Friday (Ron if your lurking out there hope you got one to ship). 
 It's nice to only have to roast once are twice a week; with the Hot Top I was roasting at least five day's a week.Enjoy your drum Les.
George Holt

7) From: John Abbott
Les,   Do you regulate the heat at all?  I have been considering a dual
burner grill so I could have more control over the heat.  Is this a
fallacy - can it not be controlled? 
On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 01:12, Lesley Albjerg wrote:
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8) From: Lesley Albjerg
John,
 
The heat is very controllable.  It isn't controllable like you can set it at 475 and it will stay at 475 until you turn a knob to say 525.  It does stabalize however.  I began my first roast at 478.  The temp did drop when I loaded the drum, but was back up to 478 in about 5 minutes without having to adjust the burners.   When I broke my drum in, I reached temps of over 600.  I have a duel burner and I think that helps.  I actually dropped my temp after 1st crack to extend it out a bit.  I bought a cheap (99.00) Char Broil grill at Lowes.  It has a stainless defuser just like Ron reccomends.  I mounted my K type Digital Themometer to watch the temps.  I don't see any reason why I couldn't control temps in 10 -20 degree increments.  Plenty good in my opinion!  John when you get to feeling better, you need to get that drum of yours cranked up!
 
Les
John Abbott  wrote:
Les, Do you regulate the heat at all? I have been considering a dual
burner grill so I could have more control over the heat. Is this a
fallacy - can it not be controlled? 
On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 01:12, Lesley Albjerg wrote:
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9) From: Ron_L
Lesley Albjerg wrote:
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OK...  You guys are pushing me closer and closer to the edge...  I made 
a deal to buy a gently used Isomac Millenium yesterday (I pick it up 
next Friday), so I have to wait for my wife to get over that purchase, 
but I think my next purchase is going to be an RK Drum...
I have a couple of questions, however...
1.  Les... Did you buy an upgraded rotisserie motor to turn your drum?  
If not, what speed is yours running at (RPMs)?
2.  How did you mount the thermocouple?
3.  Is anyone on the list using the RK with a Weber three burner grill?  
Weber runs their burners parallel to the face of the grill, instead of 
perpendicular to it like most grills.  I'm wondering if all three 
burners are needed, or if its better to roast using the front and back 
like when using the indirect cooking method on the weber...
Thanks!
...ron

10) From: Lesley Albjerg
Ron_L  wrote:
OK... You guys are pushing me closer and closer to the edge... I made 
a deal to buy a gently used Isomac Millenium yesterday (I pick it up 
next Friday), so I have to wait for my wife to get over that purchase, 
but I think my next purchase is going to be an RK Drum...
I have a couple of questions, however...
1. Les... Did you buy an upgraded rotisserie motor to turn your drum? 
If not, what speed is yours running at (RPMs)?
I am using a 6 r.p.m. standard rotisserie motor.  Ron said it is good up to 2 pound roasts.
2. How did you mount the thermocouple?
I have an extra hole in my top.  I measured how far to stick the probe wire in and marked it.  It runs about in the middle of the drum as Ron suggested.
Ron L you won't be disappoint with a Ron K drum!
Les
3. Is anyone on the list using the RK with a Weber three burner grill? 
Weber runs their burners parallel to the face of the grill, instead of 
perpendicular to it like most grills. I'm wondering if all three 
burners are needed, or if its better to roast using the front and back 
like when using the indirect cooking method on the weber...
Thanks!
...ron

11) From: GHHOLT
In a message dated 8/21/2004 4:36:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
les writes:
3. Is anyone on the list using the RK with a Weber three burner grill? 
Weber runs their burners parallel to the face of the grill, instead of 
perpendicular to it like most grills. I'm wondering if all three 
burners are needed, or if its better to roast using the front and back 
like when using the indirect cooking method on the weber...
Thanks!
...ron
I would use a grill dedicated to roasting coffee not my home grill. You could 
use an old grill but would have to clean it up.I don't think you would want 
beef flavored coffee :).I love my Weber but my wife would have a fit if I 
hacked it.
George

12) From: Ron_L
GHHOLT wrote:
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Oooooo....  Good point, George!  I didn't think of that...  Imagine my 
cupping notes... "This Harar has a nice blueberry aroma with slight 
prime rib overtones"
...ron

13) From: Joseph A. Feliciani
Hi Ron,
I use a Weber 3 burner grill with my RK Drum. It works great.
I originally used it with the Weber rotisserie motor (2.5 rpm) and it worked
fine for up to 2 lbs, but the roasts were about 20-21 min long. I then
purchased Ron's Gear Motor (57 rpm) and the roast quality is much better.
The roast times have dropped to around 16 to 18 min.
I have an old grill that I am going to convert, one of these days, to
roasting only, but for now, I roast on my main grill and convert it back and
forth. I have not noticed any "coffee" flavor in my meats, nor have I
noticed any "meat" flavor in my coffee!
What I do is remove all of the grills and the top row of flavorizor bars. I
crank all 3 burners to high and leave it that way until 1st crack. After 1st
crack starts, I then lower all 3 burners to low to stretch out the time
between 1st and 2nd crack. If 2nd crack hasn't started after 4 min, then I
crank the 1st & 3rd burners to high until the roast is finished. That's it.
I typically roast 2.5 lbs at a time. Since buying the RK Gear Motor, my
roasts are much more even, and, I think, much tastier, with the shorter
roast time. I highly recommend the combination. I have probably roasted
about 80 lbs with my RK Drum now, and it still works great and I think it
will last forever. Other than picking up a beautiful patina from the heat,
it is exactly the same as when I bought it.
Hope this helps,
Joe
RK Drum #9,RK Gear Motor #?,Solis Maestro +,*$ Proteo Barista,Spidem Trevi
Digital +

14) From: Ron_L
Joseph A. Feliciani wrote:
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Thanks, Joe... That helps...  I may go ahead and try it witht he weber 
and if I need to, I can add another grill to the deck...  I could also 
buy another set of flavorizer bars and use them only when roasting 
coffee... The bars should help to distribute the heat more evenly...
...ron

15) From: Joseph A. Feliciani
Hi Ron,
I've tried roasts with all of the flavorizor bars, with the top row removed,
and without any of the bars, it seems to me that with only the top row
removed, is the best balance of time of roast and distribution of heat.
Joe

16) From: John Blumel
On Aug 21, 2004, at 11:08pm, Joseph A. Feliciani wrote:
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Just out of curiosity, which Weber model has two rows of flavorizor 
bars?
John Blumel

17) From: Lesley Albjerg
I just finished my first 3 pound roast!  Ron wanted to see if my inexpensive Charbroil could handle 3 pounds.  No Problem!  I think the chaff issue will be addressed with getting one of Ron's faster drive units.  Roast was a nice even full city and it smells good!  Don't think I will need to roast for awhile!  So if you are looking for a dedicated RK the Charbroil does the trick!
 
Les

18) From: R.N.Kyle
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That's good news Les I believe the one you bought is rated at 30? but =
not sure. Check on the white label on the back for the btu rating. With =
this grill being it has a small footprint and the price is under 100 =
dollars makes it nice choice for a dedicated coffee roaster. I may buy =
one today and do some testing myself. 
You are correct about the chaff at slower rpms staying mostly in the =
drum, but it does not burn, the only thing is that it fly's like snow =
storm when you dump the beans. Using a faster rpm motor will sling most =
of chaff out of the drum and it collects in the bottom of the grill. =
Easy to shop vac out. 
Thanks for the information on the 99 dollar charbroil grill.
Wal Mart has one but it is only 20K the won at Lowes is 30K for the same =
price. I know of one man using a 22K Webber and has good success doing 1 =
to 2 lbs.
RK

19) From: Lesley Albjerg
Ron,
I just went and looked, the Charbroil is a 30K.  The Expobar is warming up, and the real test is about to happen!
 
Les
"R.N.Kyle"  wrote:
That's good news Les I believe the one you bought is rated at 30? but not sure. Check on the white label on the back for the btu rating. With this grill being it has a small footprint and the price is under 100 dollars makes it nice choice for a dedicated coffee roaster. I may buy one today and do some testing myself. 
You are correct about the chaff at slower rpms staying mostly in the drum, but it does not burn, the only thing is that it fly's like snow storm when you dump the beans. Using a faster rpm motor will sling most of chaff out of the drum and it collects in the bottom of the grill. Easy to shop vac out. 
Thanks for the information on the 99 dollar charbroil grill.
Wal Mart has one but it is only 20K the won at Lowes is 30K for the same price. I know of one man using a 22K Webber and has good success doing 1 to 2 lbs.
RK

20) From: Joseph A. Feliciani
Hi John,
Mine's an older version - a Genesis 1000. I think it is equivalent to their
current Silver model, but with wood rather than plastic shelves.
Joe
RK Drum #9,RK Gear Motor #?,Solis Maestro +,*$ Proteo Barista,Spidem Trevi
Digital +

21) From: jason molinari
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I use my BBQ drum with my weber and the flavorizer
bars in place...the flavor doesn't transfer between
meat and coffee...
jason

22) From: R.N.Kyle
Just wanted to say if you are trying to access my web site, it is down
trouble on the server end.
RK
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23) From: Hunt Slade
Thanks for the heads up, Ron
 
Hunt
"R.N.Kyle"  wrote:
Just wanted to say if you are trying to access my web site, it is down
trouble on the server end.
RK
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24) From: Terry Stockdale
At 12:23 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
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I noticed that.  I was going to check in a while and see if it was back up.
By the way, congratulations - Google finally has your RK Drums site listed 
higher for
RK Drum coffee roasting (no quotes)
than  my site .  Yahoo and MSN already listed you higher, but Google 
was listing mine higher.
On the other hand, if you add search for
RK Drum home coffee roasting
Google will put me first.  Anyway, if folks use my site to learn about the 
RK Drum and then buy one from you, that's what it's there for...
--
Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA
My main website:http://www.TerryStockdale.comMy newsletter:  http://www.TerrysComputerTips.com

25) From: Brian Kamnetz
Paul,
Seems like previous posts have mentioned that wind is a very important
factor when roasting with the RK drum on a gas grill. Do you to anything to
protect your rig from wind?
Thanks,,
Brian
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26) From: Paul Sack
Hi Brian,
I bought a roll of insulation from McMaster-Carr. I found out after I 
ordered it that it was the fiberglass-fiber type, so I sprayed some 
rubber paint on one side of it. It's hazardous to breathe in the 
fibers, but having it sprayed with rubber and using it outside, I think =
I'm okay. (And maybe in a few years I'll have a house with a garage or =
a shed or something and not have to do all this.) What I am using is 
pretty similar to what you might find at a big-box store. I'd suggest 
you use the thinnest insulation you can find--I think the uninsulated 
part of the grill will be the limiting factor. (If I touch the outside =
of the insulation on mine, it is barely warm at all.)
Then I sort of attached it to the outside of the lid on the grill with =
binder clips. (I used three pieces of insulation.)
Other people have attached insulation on the inside of the lid and 
drilled holes and riveted them in. I still want to be able to 
occasionally use this grill for food so I didn't do that.
Other than that, wind is still a problem sometimes, but less so than it =
used to be. I haven't insulated the bottom of the grill, which would 
help as well.
I've also placed the grill fairly close to a (brick) wall of the house.
Roasting at 28 F with a light breeze is much easier than 70 F with a 
moderate breeze.
I still want a proper sample roaster one day. Or at least a shed.
Cheers,
-Paul
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27) From: Brian Kamnetz
"Roasting at 28 F with a light breeze is much easier than 70 F with a
moderate breeze."
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the info. Wish I had a solution for you regarding wind.
Brian
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28) From: Paul Sack
Well, it makes sense--when you're roasting coffee, you're trying to 
keep temperatures in the ballpark of 400-500 F. That's 330-430 degrees =
above a 70 degree outside temperature versus a 370-470 degrees above a =
30 F outside temperature.  Not a big difference on that scale.
Really what's difficult to handle is gusts of wind. Without insulation, =
I've seen the temperature inside the lid drop 100 F in a few seconds 
when a moderate gust of wind occurs.
-Paul
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29) From: Brian Kamnetz
"Really what's difficult to handle is gusts of wind. Without insulation,
I've seen the temperature inside the lid drop 100 F in a few seconds when a
moderate gust of wind occurs."
Do you think the insulation is making a difference through insulating, or d=
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you think it is serving mostly to deflect the wind so that the wind sucks
less heat from your roaster? I'm wondering whether uninsulated material in
the same shape would serve the same function.
Thanks,
Brian
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30) From: Rich Adams
I am using a couple of fireplace "splits" in my charbroil, they retain quite 
a bit of heat and may help with stabilization and/or recovery of temp in 
windy situations.
Respectfully,
Rich Adams

31) From: Paul Sack
Well, I think it is more that the insulation is deflecting the wind 
than insulating per se. But both are really the same thing at the 
physical level. When there is a gust of wind, it very rapidly cools off =
the surface of the grill, and then that cools off the air inside the 
grill. With insulation, it's very rapidly cooling off the surface of 
the insulation, which is not hot to begin with, and it still keeps the =
heat inside. (Also some wind gets straight into the grill through some =
of the air gaps--some of which you can close off.)
In other words, I think if I tightly wrapped my grill in aluminum foil, =
it would still be quite sensitive to wind.
Other people have done things like put bricks or tiles inside the grill =
to keep temperature. I might do that one of these days.
I imagine it's much better to roast in a shed or just under the door of =
a garage. I'm happy with my coffee, but I don't think I'll ever get 
much profile control with the current setup. Like it's very hard to 
stretch out the 1st-2nd crack period for me, since the temperature 
jumps around somewhat wildly. Other roasters (whose grills are 
sheltered) report much better results.
-Paul
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32) From: Alchemist John
Insulation make a huge difference, but it is insulation even by 
deflection if it is doing the job, if you catch my meaning.  A large 
baffle of sheet metal would do the trick - a batt of draped 
fiberglass insulation would likewise work.  Anything to keep the wind 
from wicking heat away from the surface of the grill.
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Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

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34) From: Sue
Hello to all the RK Drum owners and operators!
I think I'm about ready to take the plunge and buy an RK Drum. I've written
to Ron and got a lot of the info I was looking for. I've also been looking
back into old posts and reading everything I can.
I live in northern Michigan where it can get quite cold (not quite as bad a=
s
Dave E. in the U.P. though). I know Ron recommends a grill with 45K BTU or
higher as I would like the ability to do 4 pound roasts on occasion. One of
the grills he recommends is a Brinkman. Does anyone have any experience wit=
h
this grill?
Does anyone have any other words of advice, reminders, tips, etc. before I
jump in? HHMMmmm,  do I sound a bit anxious about this purchase?
Sue

35) From: Les
Sue,
I don't have one, but I know a guy who does.  He loves it!  Nice 4
burner control.  He does many 4 pound roasts.  If I had to worry about
sub freezing weather, I would go with a Brinkman.
Les
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36) From: Sue
Thanks Les. I appreciate your response. It's good to know someone that know=
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someone that has the stuff!
I was just looking at the Walmart website. The Brinkman grill they have say=
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it's "new." It's also a 3 burner (instead of 4), and says its 45K.  I want
to make sure that will work (well). I don't know if it is really new and
therefore different that the one recommended. I don't know how to make sure
the physical size of the grill is o.k. also. Ron, if you're reading this
maybe you could take a look at that grill as well and comment. I'm not
seeing many places that sell the Brinkman grills.
Sue
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37) From: David Echelbarger
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Sue,
I have the Brinkman 4040 45,000 BTU and it works well.  I had to make some
adjustments though.  The rotisserie kit you buy extra to get the hardware
for connecting the drum comes with a very heavy duty rod that will not fit
through Ron's Drum.  I ended up buying another kit at a hardware store with
a smaller rod.   I like my grill, bought it at Walmart, but saw another like
it at Menards the other day that l liked better - looks like some
improvements.  If you need help just email me off list.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sue
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:03 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: +RK Drum
Hello to all the RK Drum owners and operators!
I think I'm about ready to take the plunge and buy an RK Drum. I've written
to Ron and got a lot of the info I was looking for. I've also been looking
back into old posts and reading everything I can. 
I live in northern Michigan where it can get quite cold (not quite as bad as
Dave E. in the U.P. though). I know Ron recommends a grill with 45K BTU or
higher as I would like the ability to do 4 pound roasts on occasion. One of
the grills he recommends is a Brinkman. Does anyone have any experience with
this grill?  
Does anyone have any other words of advice, reminders, tips, etc. before I
jump in? HHMMmmm,  do I sound a bit anxious about this purchase?
Sue

38) From: Sue
Thanks Dave. How many burners does your have? I can't find a model number o=
n
the one at the Walmart website, but it has three burners. I tried to look a=
t
Menards site, but you can't shop on their site:(  I guess I'll have to driv=
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out there tomorrow after work.  I'll swing by Walmart as well. Thanks for
the info on the rotisserie kit. Ron mentioned that some of the kits had a
heavier duty rod that wouldn't work.  I'm sure I'll be asking you more
questions soon!
Sue
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39) From: Randolph Wilson
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Sue,
I think that is a WallyMart only model, one of their favorite tricks.
Plug this into Google and you'll find some good info: brinkman gas 
grill 45,000 btu
HTH

40) From: R.N.Kyle
Sue this is the one I was telling you about. 45K 3 burner with a 12K =
side burner. 
You can see on set up with RK Combo click on the link below it should be =
the top picture.http://www.rkdrums.com/action.htmRK

41) From: David Echelbarger
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Mine has three burners plus a side burner.  I use the sheet metal baffle Ron
suggests and this was crucial for me.  The new grill I saw a while back
looked just like mine (stainless -- could send you a picture) but looked
like the overall design was nicer.  Mine kind of flops down on the end where
the motor is and the new one doesn't.  As a result, I have to prop up the
end with a stick to make positive contact when connecting the rod to the
spider gear on the motor.  I use the side burner occasionally for my
stainless steel popper for some roasting but not much anymore.  There will
be some tweaking when you get a grill set up.  I had to cut my rotisserie
rod (shorten it) otherwise it sagged in the middle since it was too long.
In the depth of a U.P. winter in my garage with the temps in the 20's I'm
not sure that I can pull off a 4 pound roast, however, using my profiles in
an appropriate length of time.  I can do two pounds with no problems - but
have only done 4 once when I was in the learning phase of things.  I bought
the Brinkman rotisserie kit just to get the little bracket - kind of a waste
really.  I probably could have found something at the hardware store and
bought a generic kit with the smaller rod.  AT the time, however, I didn't
realize that the rod wouldn't fit.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sue
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:33 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +RK Drum
Thanks Dave. How many burners does your have? I can't find a model number on
the one at the Walmart website, but it has three burners. I tried to look at
Menards site, but you can't shop on their site:(  I guess I'll have to drive
out there tomorrow after work.  I'll swing by Walmart as well. Thanks for
the info on the rotisserie kit. Ron mentioned that some of the kits had a
heavier duty rod that wouldn't work.  I'm sure I'll be asking you more
questions soon! 
Sue
On 2/22/06, David Echelbarger  wrote: 
Sue,
I have the Brinkman 4040 45,000 BTU and it works well.  I had to make some
adjustments though.  The rotisserie kit you buy extra to get the hardware
for connecting the drum comes with a very heavy duty rod that will not fit
through Ron's Drum.  I ended up buying another kit at a hardware store with
a smaller rod.   I like my grill, bought it at Walmart, but saw another like
it at Menards the other day that l liked better - looks like some
improvements.  If you need help just email me off list.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sue
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:03 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: +RK Drum
Hello to all the RK Drum owners and operators!
I think I'm about ready to take the plunge and buy an RK Drum. I've written
to Ron and got a lot of the info I was looking for. I've also been looking
back into old posts and reading everything I can. 
I live in northern Michigan where it can get quite cold (not quite as bad as
Dave E. in the U.P. though). I know Ron recommends a grill with 45K BTU or
higher as I would like the ability to do 4 pound roasts on occasion. One of
the grills he recommends is a Brinkman. Does anyone have any experience with
this grill?  
Does anyone have any other words of advice, reminders, tips, etc. before I
jump in? HHMMmmm,  do I sound a bit anxious about this purchase? 
Sue

42) From: R.N.Kyle
I recommend the Char-Broil Deluxe premium Electric Rotisserie universal =
fit. Comes with all that is needed and a 5rpm motor that can be used for =
up to 2 lb batches, If you get the combo you will not need the motor but =
its good as back.
Home Depot $33.
RK

43) From: Sue
Well I finally made it to both WalMart and Menards. WalMart had about 6
different Brinkman grills that go all the way up to 60,000 BTU's!  I'm just
trying to decide between two of the models, o I'll have to look again. The
less expensive of the two actually seemed to be sturdier!  I went ahead and
ordered the drum/motor combo from Ron a few minutes ago! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!
Thanks for all the  help. I'm sure I'll have many questions along the way!
Sue
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Be careful with the Wal-Mart specs.  The 60,000 rating may include the =
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45) From: Aaron Gee
I am going to make my own drum but had a couple of questions. 
   
  Does anybody know the type of stainless steel is used in the RK drum?
   
  304 316 321? Also does anybody know the size of the holes? I image 1/8 inch round holes with about 100 holes per square inch?
   
  Any information would be helpful. aaron
Eddie Dove  wrote:
  Ah! No Spit! I knew I was missing something!
I was just eating the beans right out of the roaster ...
Eddie
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in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

46) From: Larry Johnson
I don't think 100 1/8 inch holes will fit into a square inch unless you
stack 'em.
On 4/2/07, Aaron Gee  wrote:
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Larry J
If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please
bring me some coffee.
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47) From: Aaron Gee
Thanks that is 1/16 inch holes.
Larry Johnson  wrote:  I don't think 100 1/8 inch holes will fit into a square inch unless you stack 'em.
  On 4/2/07, Aaron Gee < aaron_in_portland> wrote:    I am going to make my own drum but had a couple of questions. 
   
  Does anybody know the type of stainless steel is used in the RK drum?
   
  304 316 321? Also does anybody know the size of the holes? I image 1/8 inch round holes with about 100 holes per square inch? 
   
  Any information would be helpful. aaron
Eddie Dove  wrote:
  Ah! No Spit! I knew I was missing something!
I was just eating the beans right out of the roaster ... 
Eddie
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48) From: Coffeenut
Aaron,
There are two measurements to consider with perforated sheet hole sizes
(hole diameter and center to center spacing which yields % of open area).
IMO, you would want perforated sheet that has the highest percentage of
"open area" with hole diameter that passes chaff but not small beans.  My
Alpenrost drum is highly perforated with holes just over 3/16" and hole
centers between 3/16 and 4/16".  That drum allows chaff to easily exit, but
also allows some smaller beans like Harar to either stick or pass through.
So, a hole size of 5/32" with center to center spacing of 3/16" would
probably be better than what I have in the Alp drum.  I've seen debate about
whether you really need Stainless or could just go with standard steel.  If
I were doing stainless, I don't think I'd worry about going past 304, but
others may have more expert opinions.
Considering the RK drum versus ordering the materials and building just one
drum, I'd probably just order from RK and be done with it.  Ron would have
the edge on me because he's done the experimenting, worked out the issues
and has a very nice design.  I love to tinker and make my own stuff too, so
I can also perfectly understand someone wanting to make their own.
  
Rick
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Aaron Gee
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:18 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: +RK Drum
I am going to make my own drum but had a couple of questions. 
 
Does anybody know the type of stainless steel is used in the RK drum?
 
304 316 321? Also does anybody know the size of the holes? I image 1/8 inch
round holes with about 100 holes per square inch?
 
Any information would be helpful. aaron
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49) From: Ed Needham
The type of stainless is not that critical for home use.  If you wanted NSF 
approval, it would have to be 316, but it really doesn't even have to be 
stainless for home use.  I use stainless for all the drums I build, but it's 
not necessary.
Hole size is pretty important though.  I would not go larger than 5/32" or 
smaller than 3/32".  The larger size being sized to roast the smallest beans 
without them getting stuck in the holes, and the smaller size not being so 
small as to not let chaff fall out.  My current drum setup has 3/16" holes, 
and beans occasionally get stuck in it.  I have to use a separate drum with 
smaller holes for peaberry, or other small beans.
As to your question about perforation spacing, I would go for the most open 
area per square inch as a starter, but I don't think the number of holes per 
square inch would make a significant difference in roast characteristics.
If you can find a ready made perforated canister it saves a lot of time and 
money.  A perforated stainless waste can has worked for my main roasting 
drum for a number of years now.
*********************
Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
*********************

50) From: Ken Mary
<Snip>
The advantage to building your own is experimenting with different
materials, sizes, and design. For small quantities, you do not need a gas
grill, an electric oven is fine. IMO, stainless is not necessary and neither
are perforations. I have a homebuilt aluminum drum which has seen almost 3
years of electric oven roasting once or twice a week, and it looks like it
will go another 3 years easily.
--

51) From: Coffeenut
Ken,
Is your design profiled somewhere?  I have some interest in building an
electric roaster for my daughter and her husband that's larger capacity than
1/2lb or less.  I've wondered what heating element to use and of what
wattage I would need to effectively roast a couple lbs of coffee in a
home-made drum.
Rick

52) From: Ken Mary
<Snip>
I have described it here a few times. You may find it more convenient to
start with a "drum" shaped object like the stainless utensil holders found
in Walmart. The oven is a large toaster oven with an added 50 rpm gearmotor
rotisserie drive. With 1200 to 1500 watts you can roast 1/4 pound in a
nonperforated drum, and 1/2 to 3/4 pound in a perf'ed or screen mesh drum.
You can roast 1/4 pound indoors, but greater amounts will make too much
smoke and odor, and are best done outside or in a shed.
--

53) From: Coffeenut
Ok thanks Ken, I'll do a search in the archives as well.  I'm guessing that
if I want to do 2lbs, I'm back to doing it with a gasser if 1500w can only
do upwards of 3/4lb.
Rick

54) From: Ed Needham
As in most things, there is no right or wrong way.  Personal preference 
pretty much dictates what you want your roaster to look like.  I have made 
several small solid walled drums and use them frequently for specific needs. 
One I use on campouts over a campfire to roast beans.  Pure seat of the 
pants roasting.  No timers, thermometers or controls except a forked stick 
and a drum on a spit rod.  It's fun and gets everyone's attention.  I get to 
educate a bit about good coffee as the beans roast and cool.  Then I get to 
grind and brew for the eager campers.
Yummy
*********************
Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
*********************
Ken Mary said...
<Snip>

55) From: Brian Kamnetz
Camping with you sure sounds fun, Ed.
Incidentally, thank you for suggesting a coffee place in Hawaii a few weeks
ago. As it turns out, my sister and brother-in-law weren't able to find it,
but I appreciate the effort.
Brian
On 4/3/07, Ed Needham  wrote:
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56) From: Ed Needham
Believe it or not, I camped this weekend at the infield of Churchill Downs 
in Louisville, home of the Kentucky Derby.  It was pretty cool waking to the 
sound of thundering thoroughbreds doing their morning workout.  Scout O Rama 
2007  Lovely storms throughout the night.  Thunder is really loud in a tent. 
:::grin:::  and a bit arousing when you know you are only feet from an 
aluminum frame 10'x20' canopy.  Makes a great lightening rod I'd bet.
I have pictures of the Kaanapali Plantation in Maui on my web site.http://www.homeroaster.com/mauimoka.html*********************
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57) From: raymanowen
You're right, the 100  1/8 inch holes would have an area of 1.2 sq inches,
so no way to hang 'em.
But offsetting the 0.125" holes in a honeycomb pattern, maybe you could get
a drum shape with 2,412 holes in it. It wouldn't have the rigidity of a wet
noodle.
A woven mesh of 328 stainless would be more practical.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Remember the Tacoma Narrows bridge

58) From: Jared
After literally years of being delusional enough to think I could make my
own version of an RK drum and his fast rotisserie motor set up I finally
bought the real deal.   And boy am I glad.  After setting it up an using it
for the first time I got the reality feed back that I could have never found
such high quality parts and assembled them with his skill.   It is truly a
great example of an apparently simple thing that really isn't so simple once
I see all the thought Ron must have put into each detail.   First roast
ended up super even when taken to a full city in 15 minutes.  I can't wait
to work on some profiles.  Having been an unmodded popper roaster this new
control will be great especially for my espresso quality.  Now you do need
some home roaster spirit to set this system up.  I needed a drill with
multiple bits, a jig saw with metal cutting blade, level, multiple wrenches
and screw drivers and a few more tools to get the job done right.  I am sure
your tool and set up needs will be different and likely easier.  My point
however is that although each step in the assembly was easy it needed some
thought and degree of accuracy on my part.  Both important skills needed
when using this roaster in the future and a big part of why it is going to
be a very fun roaster.  If you want a plug it in, push a profile button and
forget it system this is not going to be for you.   After my 1/4 pound per
roast poppers putting a whole pound in the RK was weird.  Weird in part
because it was so much coffee to be roasted at once and weird because a
whole pound seemed like I was putting in almost no coffee.  This thing can
do 4 pounds.  In the future I plan to do 2 to 3 pounds a week to take care
of my wife and my work environments as well as our home needs.  I love the
chaka chaka cha sound of the turning beans along with the need to watch my
temp guage and adjust the three grill knobs to keep my system in check.
Being awar of the sounds, gauge, smells and sites made me feel like I was
driving an old steam tractor.  Jared

59) From: Floyd Lozano
Anyone can make a chair, but making one you want to sit in takes skill, and
one that you would want to put in your living room to show off even more
skill ;)  The drum is great but Ron's customer service is even better.  As
sometimes happens with welds, the welds on my drum door failed, but Ron
offered not only to fix it but pay shipping both ways!  (I didn't let him
pay the shipping out ;) )  Since that repair 6 months ago, no problems with
the drum.  RK stands by his work, and his work is good!
I love that bean tumbling sound too.  If you listen, you can actually hear
the beans expand - the sound  becomes less sharp, like tumbling rocks, and
more like tumbling marbles or peas.  If you happen to have any problems
hearing stuff because of squeaking of the spit as it turns, a tiny little
dab of lithium grease (and i do mean tiny - maybe the size of a bb) applied
to the point where the spit turns against the brackets, while it's turning,
and that squeak will go away.
Enjoy your new drum!
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60) From: Jared
Thanks for the input Floyd.  I will be listening for that sound change as
the beans expand.  Only problem now is that I have gone from about 8 roasts
a week in my poppers to one roast a week in the drum.  I am totally jonesing
for another roast experience but am up to my ankles in coffee.   I know up
to my ankles doesn't sound like much but if you spread it over my whole
garage floor it really is a lot of coffee.  Jared
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61) From: Floyd Lozano
Well, just because you roasted the coffee you want to drink for the week
doesn't mean you can't roast for cupping ;)  I had the same problem too, so
I started roasting to give away (needed the practice and still do but am
much better now!)
-F
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62) From: Ross
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Jared,
I also have a closet full of fresh roasted coffee that I will have to =
give away.  The only real downside of gas drum roasting is you don't =
quit until you have roasted too much.  RK is ultimately going to force =
us all into the coffee business, I bet Tom loves him though, my green =
orders are increasing.
Ross

63) From: RK
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Yeah and the neighbors and friends love it also, Nothing says you can't =
start selling some to help pay the cost.
Some nice business have grown from meager starts.
RK

64) From: Jared
Ross, I can't believe how much coffee I have been going through since
getting the RK.  It is at least 4 times as much.  Going from 1/4 pound
to 2 pound roasts changes things a bit.   I have had multiple requests
for my coffee to be purchased but hate the idea of personal life and
business life merging.    Roasting for me is about having great
coffee, a type of cooking art, a hobby I can learn about forever and
something I can freely share with others.
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65) From: Jared
Ron, I just want to say publicly how much I like your RK drum and
Motor kit.  My praise is not intended to squash the Behmor love going
on but is likely timed in part as a reaction to this new roaster.   It
sounds like a great roaster at a great price however I am still super
glad I have the RK.  I have found that I am really a 2lb or more a
roast roaster and love the experience of roasting with your drum and
my grill.  Jared
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66) From: Floyd Lozano
They are complementary, in my opinion.  Behmor will likely replace the
RK drum in certain situations (i only want to roast a pound or half
pound, and don't feel like going outside, etc) but doubtful to replace
it in others (i want to roast 2lb at once, and 4 or 6 lb total, and
want total hands on control over the process, and want to roast tiny
beans!)  Say what you want about the capabilities of the Behmor and i
am sure with learning, as with any tool, you can get what you want out
of it, but i know with the drum I can end the roast *now* at any *now*
I decide, and I'm not sure its that simple with the Behmor.  I should
know in a day, for mine arrives likely tomorrow, and once I get my new
thermometers, i plan to continue to use the RK drum too!
-F
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67) From: Homeroaster
You can sell coffee without it being a business.  Many hobbies involve 
creating and selling, swapping or sharing reasonable quantities of their 
handiwork.  Quilters do it, carpenters do it, metalworkers do it.  Backyard 
mechanics have been fixing cars or gadgets on the side for centuries. 
Hardly a business.
I might sell five or more bags a week, but it's hardly a business.  It's all 
sold to friends, co-workers and family, or at an occasional street fair. 
For me, it 'somewhat' subsidizes my hobby.  That's about all it amounts to. 
Share what you roast.  It's fun.
I'm sure there's a technocrat somewhere who would insist mine is a business, 
but I'm not inclined to make that jump.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

68) From: Jared
Ed I think you make a good point and I think it is great that others
sell or barter there services and products the way you describe.  It
really becomes a win win kind of transaction for both parties.   Jared
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69) From: Les
Floyd,
I agree with you that these are complementory roasters.  I am drinking a
very nicely roasted cup of Brazilain Yellow Bourbon from the Behmor this
morning.  However, I think its max is pushing the max for this roaster.  I
am seeing it as a half pound roaster that can do a pound at a time.  Today I
will be exploring some half pound roasts.  My wife really likes the Behmor.
Not that it roasts all that much better, but since I have it set up on one
of my shop benches, I have been cleaning up the shop during the 20 minute or
so roast time.  It is amazing how much cleaner the shop is this morning.
Les
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70) From: Floyd Lozano
I think my use will be if I am roasting a lot of coffee (more than one
batch) I'll probably use the
RK drum, and if less (just a 1/2lb or a lb to get me through the week)
then I'll use the Behmor, or when ever it's raining out, or it's
wicked cold out.  It's going to be my 'i just don't want to brave the
elements or set up my roasting setup' setup =)
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71) From: RK
snip: from Jared's post:
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Glad you like the RK. I think the excitment of a new roaster that can be
used indoors under a hood that will do up to 1 lb is and will be of great
interest and value to many homeroasters. Its nice to have so many choices
today for homeroasting, it wasn't to many years ago that only a few were
available like poppers, skillets, and such.
Thanks for the kudos Jared.
Ron

72) From: Mejia, Carlos
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Well, I'm finally making some headway on setting up to do drum roasting.
I purchased a gas grill last night which should work well (I hope!).
It's a Brinkman (stainless steel) and has 3 burners.  I'm not sure what
the BTU rating is but with 3 burners I'm thinking it should get plenty
hot enough.  Now for the big item... I'm ready to buy an RK drum but
unfortunately, my budget isn't able to handle a new one.  I'll keep
saving, but in the meantime just in the off chance that someone is
upgrading or (god forbid) getting out of roasting, is there anyone who
would be willing to part with their RK drum at a discount price?   Just
thought I'd ask... ~carlos

73) From: Jamie Dolan
HI,
Sorry, I want my RK drumm.  I just wanted to tell you that when I
roasted on my 3 burrner Brinkman (mine has the stainless steel lid
also) 2 weeks ago in -8 degree weather it worked very well.  It
reached first crack in about 10 minutes.
There is a name plate on the grill below the knobs that will tell you
the BTU of the burners.  Mine is 45,000 BTU.
So I suspect your grill will work well once you get your drum.
Good Luck
Jamie

74) From: miKe mcKoffee
FWIW just as an efficiency reference point, our USRC 8 pounder is only rated
25,000 BTU. And full power will never be needed full time while roasting.
Figure out the gas cost savings over the next upteen roasts and go for it
like Les just did! OTOH it is much easier to quickly slow on roast on a less
energy efficient RK setup:-)
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75) From: Rich Adams

76) From: miKe mcKoffee
OTOH about the same time as RK setup to roast up to 8 pounds and be more
energy efficient and be more repeatable and be automatable in a bit bigger
model USRC with added control system with computer interfacing:-)
Though never have figured out why someone would want multiple pound batches
for home use... Same bean or blend multiple times same day, how boring!
Now back to Quarterly taxes...
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77) From: raymanowen
"...never have figured out why someone would want multiple pound batches
for home use..."
[For future commercial plans or condescending gifts.] -ro
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78) From: raymanowen
"...a less energy efficient RK setup:-)"
The RK Drum itself has nothing to do with the efficiency of your roasting
setup. If you wanted to maximize the inefficiency of a roaster, you could
fabricate a stainless steel concrete mixer drum that would easily hold a
couple of tons of beans.
Rotate clockwise to tumble and roast- CCW to dump the roast. 15 trier ports
with spotting scopes, and you could situate it over a CF&I Pueblo blast
furnace. The cold bleed air ratio would give any roasting temperature you
wanted. That's inefficient, not the drum.
The next plunge in efficiency would be to use one of the controlled
atmosphere electric furnaces used for making stainless steel- a TIG welder
from Brobdingnag!
The RKDrum does not cause inefficiency, any more than thermocouples are
imprecise. Quick and dirty installations are the culprit, in every case.
Cheers, Mabuhay, tiêng hoan hô, enjoy fresh home roast -RayO, aka Opa!
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79) From: Brett Mason
Four of us drink coffee daily ...  More when the big boys visit home too...
Thus, we drink more, roast more, and see more black hecilopters....
Brett
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80) From: raymanowen
An expression that should be in the vocabulary of every home roaster, to be
unzipped on the second week of pulling master roaster and barista duty for
the big boys: "Want to have some fun and learn something new today?"
"See the white tanks? They're empty- go fetch." Big boys would have the
pocket scratch to oblige you. Lacking that, they might be invited to take an
empty or two with them when they leave, and bring them back filled up when
they visit you next time. A lesson in social behavior for the big boys.
Many of the RV shops or U-Haul rental stations refill propane or butane
tanks cheaper than the grocery. Nacho problem- they just have to bring them
back filled, however it happens.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Social grace according to Miss Manners...
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81) From: Jim Gundlach
On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:45 PM, raymanowen wrote:
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Some of us habitually share.
   pecan jim

82) From: Rich Adams

83) From: Mejia, Carlos
Well, maybe I'm just still too much of a newbie (slightly over 1 yr
roasting in an iR2) but the thought of roasting several 3 or 4# batches
of a certain bean in one day to shoot for a consistently great cup is
turnin' me on!  I can't wait to get it all together and give it a whirl.
Still haven't decided on goin' homegrown or buyin' an RK so I'm not
quite there yet but excited as hell to take on this project.  I'm so
thankful for this community and the guidance of those who've taken this
path before me. ~carlos

84) From: Tom Ulmer
Rumor has it that Art Bell and Big Brother are now one in the same. Your
communications and movements ARE monitored. Be careful with the four or more
coffee drinkers in your house statements. It could be easily construed as a
small militia...

85) From: Brett Mason
Dang!  I new it was sumpin shady.
  Rufus
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86) From: John Despres
I don't use an RK but do roast about 4-5 pounds a week and give most of 
it away. I like to roast and my friends are very happy! And becoming 
dependent...
John
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87) From: miKe mcKoffee
It's kind of humorous. "In another IT life" I'd bring coffee in for our
meetings and also gift people now and then was asked numerous times if I
sold my coffee. My answer was always no, didn't want to make it a "job" and
take the fun out of it. Now look what I've gone and done!
No argument, very consistent results possible RK Drum roasting. Gotta say
though a Weber with RK sitting in the Kafe wouldn't have the same customer
visual impact:-)
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88) From: RK
Congradulations on finally getting your Roaster up and running Mike.
Have you posted any pictures yet, or did I miss them.
RK

89) From: Kevin
For those of you using an RK Drum, I would assume the gas grill should be
dedicated to coffee roasting?  Is this assumption correct?
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90) From: Brett Mason
I pull the racks for roasting, and put them back in for traditional
grilling...  Why would single use be required?
Brett
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91) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
Mine is just for coffee, BUT I have grilled once or twice on it I just
do a high burn for a few min before my next roast and it is all good.
Dennis

92) From: Kevin
I was thinking along the lines that if one uses the grill for cooking as
well as roasting that the flavor from grilling meat (especially the fat from
burgers) would carry into the beans.  My wife doesn't mind me getting the
set up if the grill can double as a grill for food.  I'd be tough for me to
justify a grill dedicated to coffee roasting, though it may be possible...
I'd appreciate any and all input.
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93) From: Brett Mason
Well that's a good point...  I usually burn off any residual stuff from my
grill after use...
BUT - I have a Weber charcoal grill and an outdoor firepit with grill - so
my BBQ is used primarily for coffee...
I have never noticed any burger flavor in my beans...  AND I have done
burgers on the grill each year....
Brett
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94) From: Ed Needham
It's just a bit more of a PITA to use one grill for both.  It can be done 
unless your grilling habits make the grill particularly greasy or smelly. 
Doing a 15 minute high flame burnoff will usually get rid of those things 
that might influence the roasted coffee.
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com*********************

95) From: Kevin
Ed, Brett, and Denis,
That is music to my ears!  Now I can definitely get the green light from the
Mrs. to buy the grill and rk drum (we don't have a grill at this point just
a George Foreman).  I see more $$ going to Sweet Maria's from me in the
future....
Though the Gene Cafe has treated me well, it'll be nice to do more than 1/2
lb batches!
Kevin
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96) From: kevin creason
I was fortunate enough to get a neighbors nice craftsman grill with
half  tank for $15 at a yard sale thereby relegating my old fugly
fiesta to coffee only.
I too worried about it before I got my RK. there was a little pressure
to get rid of the fiesta but it went away after a while. I pressure
washed the fiesta but every once in a while I think I get a whiff of
burger while roasting. or have an overactive imagination.
I guess my answer is to hit the yard/garage/moving sales if you've got
the room and are willing to put up with a little 'noise'.
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97) From: Mike Koenig
Kevin,
I've been using a shared grill for quite a while now, and have no
problems.  As others have said, I do a high flame burn-off after
grilling - it turns any residue to a fine white ash.  Not once have I
had a meat flavored batch of coffee.  No coffee taste in my burgers
either.
Space is my limiting factor,  I live in a townhouse, so no room for 2 grills.
--mike
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98) From: raymanowen
"My wife doesn't mind me getting the set up if the grill can double as a
grill for food."
Interchangeable is not all bad; swapping is not at all good. Do neither,
especially if your sample roaster could become a hot dog or sausage link
cooker...
Keep your eye peeled for a decent BBQ set up in a yard sale or Craig's
List.  Grocery store bulletin board? Thoughts of upgrade are considered by
the Rich Folks this time of year...
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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99) From: Jerry Procopio
I use a dedicated grill for coffee roasting but mostly out of 
convenience.  My first several roasts with the RK Drum were in my food 
grilling grill (without any extra burn off after cooking food - just 
preheat the grill & let her rip).  I didn't experience any food flavors 
in the coffee nor coffee smoke flavors in my food.  But I agree with Ed, 
it is a PITA shifting from coffee roasting to food grilling and a royal 
PITA if you are using a high speed rotisserie and decide you want to 
spin a chicken.
I decided to sell a few pounds of homeroast to offset the cost of my 
setup.  I have limited sales to about 30 pounds a month and paid off the 
RK Drum, RK rotisserie setup and gas grill in about 18 months - and 
gained LOTS of experience on the RK.
JavaJerry
RK Drum roasting in Chesapeake, VA
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