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Topic: [coffee] Apologies > was Re: +low price beans, ebay, and other vendors (6 msgs / 140 lines)
1) From: Rick Farris
You do a pretty good job of walking the line, Mike.
miKe mcKoffee writes:
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Not if it's someplace that doesn't sell anything else SM sells.
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That's a little iffier, but as long as it's someplace that doesn't also
stock a bunch of coffees that Tom & Maria aren't out of (you know, like
the farm contacts you sometimes post), I don't really see anything wrong
with it -- although technically it would be directly against the policy
Felix posted.
But some of the recent posts (not by you) listing other direct
commercial competitors of Tom's (like CBC, etc) just because SM happens
to be out of a particular varietal at the moment, or doesn't stock any
$0.10/lb greens are blatantly unfair to SM.
My personal take is that if I have to stop and think about whether it
would be against list policy, then I don't post it.
-- Rick

2) From: John Blumel
On Dec 26, 2003, at 12:03pm, Rick Farris wrote:
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Quoting from the list rules, "...we do not allow outside commercial 
posts of any kind. This includes regular emails with commercial 
references, URLs, addresses or 800 numbers of products we offer or like 
products." So technically, this would be out of line. The rules are 
posted at
  http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#listrulesand further explained at
  http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#maillist.READMEThey are pretty straightforward and just take a couple of minutes to 
read.
John Blumel

3) From: miKe mcKoffee
Query below...

4) From: Rick W
I started reading this thread and realized something.  This List is
truly great and is served by a lot of very talented people.  It also
serves Sweet Marias with lots of follow-on business.  It seems a shame
if we spend any time and energy on "policing" each other with regard to
Sweet Maria's List policies.  My feeling is to let Tom (or his
designate) do all that stuff.  He owns the List and the responsibility
for policing same.  If someone is truly "an offender" who needs to be
dealt with, then why not let Tom do it (off list) where it should be
done.  If the offense is bad enough, then Tom has the right to remove
that person from the List.  
IMO, we should concern ourselves with sharing ideas, information,
helping each other and leave the police-work to Tom or his designated
moderator.  What we have today is multiple, well meaning, List
participants who attempt to moderate, but can have differing
interpretations over List policy.  No offense intended to anyone.  It
just seems to me that we're List participants and consumers, not Sweet
Maria's policy-police.  Regarding green coffee and related equipment, we
all can shop-the-net and find most any competitor to Sweet Marias.  But,
it's the business relationship we've all discovered with Tom that really
insulates, nurtures and protects his business.
Stepping off "soap-box",
Rick Waits

5) From: John Blumel
On Dec 26, 2003, at 2:19pm, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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And that would seem to be fine according to the rules -- as long as one 
doesn't say, "and I bought it from X," or, "X has some great deals on 
these things," where X is not SM's. The basic principle seems to simply 
be to not direct any business to any competitors for the TYPES of 
products that SM's sells. The other main principle seems to be, if in 
doubt, email Tom first.
And, following Rick W.'s advice, this is my final post on this topic, 
ever.
John Blumel

6) From: Ron Kyle
snip from Rick W.
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I agree with you Rick, well said. If I see something on the list I don't
like, I just delete it and go on. Tom can decide if it is appropriate or
not.
Ron


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