I'm in the midst of my first experiment with adding 4 grams water to 96 grams decaf greens to bring it up to the typical 100g weight of typical non-decaf greens (normalized for post roast weight). The hydration was easy, the decaf greens were very thirsty. I roasted to a similar profile. BTW, my idea of profiling is twisting the knob on my Gourmet (still working) and going back into the house. I drank my first pot of the +water after a one day rest and while I haven't done a side by side cupping, I perceive an improvement. I did do some side by side sniffing of a normal decaf roast, and a decaf + water roast, after about a day of rest and the +water almost smelled like a different bean (deeper, darker, whatever that means?)... Tomorrow I will try a pot of the decaf w/o added water and try very hard to give it a fair review, it will be rested an extra day, then the next day I'll be drinking the +water at 3 days, and so on. JR |
I swear I am not a shill for SM. I roasted four
coffees yesterday {outside on the bbq grill side
burner in a wokkish pan). Had trouble hearing the
events with the harar decaf and pulled it
guesstimating it was ready. Dark brown with little
oil. Brewed today. Wonderful! Looked at my notes
for the last three roastings and they were all very
positive. If some on this list feel that decafs can't
be full and rich with marvelous aroma and taste
please try this.
Paul
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On 28 Dec 2003 at 9:29, PAUL RIFKIN wrote: <Snip> I've been very impressed by it, as well as the other "water process" decafs from Royal Importers. Jim |
I never even considered decaf until getting hooked on home roasting and drinking myself into sleep deprivation.... I concur the decaf harar is nice. I wonder if adding some water to decaf would make a difference, as it appears to be somewhat dehydrated compared to regular greens (based on weight loss during roasting)? JR Perhaps I'll experiment with my next batch... I'm inclined to try adding 4 grams water to 96 grams green decaf to bring it up to the typical 100 grams non-decaf I use to get 82 grams after roasting. |
I have had great results with the decaf Harrar from SM. Especially if it is aged for about 6 days. It gets better as it gets older after the roast. PeterZ PAUL RIFKIN wrote: <Snip> |
From: peter zulkowski Subject: Re: +decaf harar horse Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:45:19 -0700 <Snip> I agree 95%. That decaf Harar seems to build up the huge body with a little bit of sweetness only after waiting for that many days, but some of the initial bite and spiciness (which is not perfectly preserved in the decaf version, though I think this year even the best non-decaf Harar isn't up to two years ago) are gradually faded. I blend equal parts of this week's roast and last week's roast. Much better. One variation is to replace the older part of the Harar with decaf Colombian Huila, which adds a huge amount of sweetness instantly. Another variation is to add 1/3 or so of Yemen. In fairness for the decaf, two years ago, decaf like this was very rare. It's now just a matter of click and wait. It'll set a huge expectation for the decaf Harar next season!!! I find that Huila decaf to be an excellent decaf. Roasted a little lighter side, it can dilute caffeine in the morning blend. Roasted a little darker, it is perfect after dinner with or without blending. Roasted a bit more darker it adds great body and sweetness to cafe crema and espresso blends. If you compare decaf vs non-decaf vis-a-vis, this is pretty good. Harar, on the other hand, still loses some of its spiciness and complexity in the decaf version. Columbia is much milder intrinsically so it may not have much to lose anyway (like Mexicans). One negative for decafs -- they seem to go stale quicker than regular and vacuuming doesn't help much. But that's ok, taking away much of the irritant more than offsets this weakness. I want decaf Harar (and Yemen) with gunpowder. (without adding a dash of old time american rye whiskey) -- Ryuji Suzuki "I can't believe I'm here. People always say that I'm a long way from normal." (Bob Dylan, Normal, Illinois, 13 February 1999) |
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Thank you for the input. Looks like I will be getting together an order from SM soon. All these blends to try...... Smile, PeterZ Still enjoying the 50F sunny weather here in LHC Ryuji Suzuki wrote: <Snip> |