http://www.baratza.com/html/122ITS HERE!!! and on the way to Texas!!!
What is "new/improved" with this one over the Master 5000's? Just curious, as I'm quite clueless when it comes to super-autos (and a number of other topics as well, if you ask my wife...) -mike <Snip>
Well for openers its new :O) I read the review on CoffeeGeek and then started waiting. The major changes are a better grinder, a by-pass chute for preground coffee - ie - single shots!!!! smaller bean chamber, more control over the temperature and better control over the steam wand system - 10 to 15 seconds and the steam wand is ready - and one can brew a shot immediately after using it. And finally a rear mounted 2 quart water source. But mostly - its new and I can make single shots using my other grinder and vary the drinks one after the other - if I want to. Mike Gallant wrote: <Snip>
On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:08 PM, John Abbott wrote: <Snip> And, you can continue to make shots with another grinder if the internal grinder dies. Jim Gundlach
John: Just go ahead and pack up the old 5000 and ship to me. I will adopt it and give it a good home. If you keep it you will neglect it. Joe
Great thought Joe, but its already promised to a stunning blond that lives in Ohio - who roasts her own SM beans but really needs a machine. She's married to a preacher - so you know their budget doesn't have ANY hope of getting there. John - drinking a really smooth Guatemalan Bamboo Joe wrote: <Snip>
--- Pecan Jim Gundlach wrote: <Snip> Good point, Jim. My M5K is still sitting and waiting for a new grinder. But still-the new model costs almost TWICE as much as the old one, and a new grinder for mine is "only" $125... Congrats to John (and all his neighbors). New is nice. Charlie Charlie ===== Brick Oven Roasting in British Columbia Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakeshttp://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
Charlie, I almost said that my Solis has a great grinder. You are the first that I've seen a failure report on it. So maybe its time to ship this to my daughter anyway :O) We found a great place in Guadalajara that makes gorgeous dimitass cups and saucers - for $2 a set! I might become a dealer - NOT - but its sure tempting. I paid the guy to pack them for me - I felt that I they were worth a lot more than he was charging and figured a good price for packing for the return flight would make up some of it. How about silver dealers every 30 feet!! BUT only ONE espresso machine that we could find. John - ready to go back! Oaxaca Charlie wrote: <Snip>
<Snip> I tested the new solis a few months back, took a ton of photos, reviewed it, everyone in the shop used it for a month, and ordered them ... then wimped out. It was the price that got me ... its soooo much! The Master 5000 isnt the latest or greatest but it does the basic job of the palazzo. Well, now the Master 5000 has gone up in price from $479 to $549, not close to the Palazzo but thats a big hike. Anyway, I will look forward to comments on the machine and maybe I should reconsider and stock it. Basically, its awesome. Some people here had trouble with the ground coffee chute, but they didnt spend the 30 seconds I did reading the manual. You just have to properly notify the machine that you are putting ground cofffee into it ... it would be cool if it automatically sensed it when you open the ground coffee chute. It has lots of good steam available fast, but you still need to clear the steam line of water like any machine. Its easy to care for, thats for sure. I found that the spent coffee pucks filled their container quickly, or I would get false warnings that it was full when it wasnt. But that happened twice in a month test. Everyone here drank way too much coffee when the machine was set up, so thats a good sign. One of the most incredible Cafe Cremas we had was actually decaf Eth Harar. Incredible. It was like apricot custard! have fun with the Palazzo! Tom -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters" Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting - Tom & Maria http://www.sweetmarias.com Thomspon Owen george
Tom, Not that its a show stopper for me, but all the literature on every site (copied from the same sheet no doubt) says that you can make a shot immediately after using the steam wand. Its not a big deal either way, I use the over-heated water from the SM5K to clean out the frothing pitcher. It doesn't take long and the boiler temperature sensor keeps the steam light lit and inhibits the brew button until its clear. As for the false "full bucket" alarm, I'll take that over folks reloading the water and not dumping the trays until it backs up into the machine! During Christmas we had a house full of people every day for a little over two weeks and trying to be helpful they would refill the water tank and nothing else and I had to take the machine apart and vacuum it out. I see the alarm as an advantage. What kind of trouble would occur with the bypass chute? That chute is the major reason that we are getting ours - so I can make decafs for the gals in the family that quit drinking the real stuff at noon! Also the ability to change coffee without having to spin out the grinder and reload for a single shot was attractive. Is it not a simple thing to do? Not that it matters, my order is in. John - anxiously awaiting Brown with my box. Tom Wrote: <Snip>
You are buying another one? :-O Wow. Sometime around 16:26 1/9/2004, John Abbott typed: <Snip> -- John Nanci AlChemist at large Zen Roasting and Blending by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/
Trading up - my old one is going to Ohio for my daughter. AlChemist John wrote: <Snip>
I thought that the stunning blonde was going to buy one for your son. Not take Dad's. What else did they talk you out of? So, was this actually a plan to get Carolyn to let you but the new one?? John Abbott wrote: <Snip>
No no! My daughter in love is a gorgeous red head. She is the one that was going to buy one for my son - and has. My daughter is the blond - and I mean blond in every sense of the word :O)) Her favorite expression is "Well I can always fall back on cute!" She is married to a preacher and will never have enough budget to afford one. It wasn't hard to talk Carolyn into it - when I pointed out the by-pass chute that would allow her to drink decaf after her cut off time. She loves coffee but caffeine keeps her awake. I can down a double - put the cup down and go to sleep. But my ham shack is missing a radio and a couple of hand helds that my son took with him to Kentucky. My kids REALLY know how to push my buttons. John - waiting and watching for brown. Its on the truck for delivery. Ben Treichel wrote: <Snip>
On Jan 10, 2004, at 10:05am, John Abbott wrote: <Snip> Doesn't it get a little too smoky in there to listen to the radio? John Blumel
Funny! Not a ham smoking shack - but an amateur radio shack - but then YOU KNEW THAT :-D John Blumel wrote: <Snip>
YAHOO!! IT'S HERE! I guess my email rant to UPS paid off, they sent it "complimentary Saturday delivery" even though it was supposedly in Washington state yesterday. Now I only have to let it come to room temp-it was -5 this morning with a wind chill of about -20. Derek
Congrats, after playing with it awhile let us know what DAY you go to sleep! MM;-)
<Snip> And John Blumel replied: <Snip> LOL! I'd just come in from putting a 19.34# ham on the Traeger to apple/maple mix smoke when I read that. MM;-)
So far, so good. I am at least beginning with decaf blend of my own-Dr.'s orders anyway so I'll sleep. Did just roast some Donkey Blend and will try that with the bypass chute when ready.
That's a sweet looking super-automatic, John. Is that the one endorsed by Enrico Palazzo? :-) DJ Feeling like a having fresh cup and viewing The Naked Gun, but actually getting ready for snoozing ...
My new toy arrived Saturday via UPS by "complimentary Saturday delivery" so I guess ranting helped it get here three days earlier than the status report indicated. The Palazzo has been very, very good. The wife loves it which saves my butt. It does produce thick, abundant crema and produces steam without waiting. It took just a little adjusting to get the cafe crema the way I wanted and even less tweaking for Donkey Blend espresso for capp's. Being shorter than the 5k got my attention because the cabinets are lower than standard in our kitchen-the 5k just wouldn't fit. I have had no trouble using the grounds chute but the directions could be better. One of the best surprises was how fast it heated to operating temperature. I turned it on when I got up in the morning and it was ready to brew in less than 5 minutes. Derek